ninjamatt wrote:What I like to do which modifies your theory slightly is this. I like to find a point in the conversation where it's going good and I think she will remember me the next day. Hopefully around 5 minutes of convo but anywhere from 2 minutes to 30 or more can work. I will say something like, "I have to go over there" or "we are going to x place" then I say "let me get your number and I will text you this weekend." the term "let me" generally works better than "can I" although some chicks like the question form better than the demand but statistically speaking either way is ok.
When I get the number, I will text them my name immediately and tell them I'm doing it, so I know it's a valid number. They do remember that. One issue I have run in to a little bit is, some women are weary of others in a club seeing them give their number so you want to try to figure out if it's smart to take out your phone , or just tell her you aren't taking it out that you will remember the number. If I can tell they are on top of their game and know their friends(bf) are watching, I will say "I'm gonna go walk around, give me your number and I'll remember it, I don't want to get my phone out now" If you really like her, you can remember it for a few minutes and put it in when you get out of her sight. it will be a tactic she's never heard before and will work like a charm if she's even semi-interested. that's a situation thing you'll get better at reading with practice but generally either way is ok for starters. One option is tell them you left your phone in the car if you don't want to get yours out if she makes you jittery nervous.
It's my experience that it takes a woman of lower value to initiate texts or calls to a male.
How does that pile of shit you just posted "slightly modify" anything he said? Not only did you post exactly what he said you SHOULDN'T do in #4, but what you explained is way too much work and extremely inefficient. Why do you need to walk around trying to remember a girl's number for minutes after she gave it to you, when you could give her yours and then TELL her to call yours immediately?
"Can I" = asking permission
"Let me" = asking permission
"Could you" = asking permission
None of these are action words or commands. You're giving her the option to say no. Obviously her number must be the prize to you if you're treating it like the ring Gollum is looking for. If you were a high value male and she was actually interested in you, it would be a social proof boost to her if you were seen choosing her over other women.
Isn't the whole point of this pickup stuff to give yourself perceived value (real or otherwise) over the woman? So clearly it would take a woman of 'lower' value to initiate convo if she's invested.
All that being said, this whole thing could be avoided if instead of bailing on a good note like George Costanza you sacked up and went for the pull. The number should be nothing but a consolation prize if the pull isn't an option, or a means of keeping in contact with her during the process of a pull. You're going to look like a bitch if you're making yourself jump through all these hoops to get something as minor as a number.