by Guest » Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:08 pm
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There have been alot of discussions about making these message boards and forums and Lairs into Men's Social Clubs. And there has also been alot of guys on here who say "Come out with us to the GIANT Cocck Fest"
What I'm going to suggest is not earth shattering, its not new.
You guys wanna get laid, right?
Well you gotta talk to girls in order to get laid. Forming all kinds of Men's Social Clubs and meetups for guys at bars where everyone stands around talkign about game and holding beers to their chests is not the way to go about meeting women.
I know that sounds harsh. And I also know that its really your choice. You can choose to do whatever you want.
Its really easy to form forums like these and also probably Men's fraternaties. You just have to find like minded GUYS.
That's the problem, GUYS.
And there are plenty of fraternaties, meetup grouips, social clubs to join in the world.
Most of us would rather join a sorority!! LOL!
I'm not the only one who shares this opinion. Read Mystery. Specifically a post about rolling in numbers.
You guys want to bring cockblocks with you to the venue? Geez....you've already got TONS of AFC's standing about the bar anyway!!
You wanna burn out venues so the girls remember you and think "Oh he was part of those creepy guys who hung around in a circle of lamers"?
Seriously, you've got the wrong idea.
I'm not saying that you can't be social. I'm saying just don't be thinking "I'm Gonna Get Laid Tonight!!! I'll be out with 10 other PUAs".
Be prepared to go home to your hand.
Again, not trying to be mean or disrespectful to those who go out and meet eachother, just the facts of how it goes down.
I've been at Sherlocks before and seen twenty, maybe thirty guys from the Lair. Huge cockfarms.
Just my thoughts.
Have a nice day.
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I used to have exactly the same perspective as you Trib. Mainly because I'd go out in a big group and get blown out all of the time by the very guys I was hanging out with. I felt like I was Gaming guys while I was trying to Game girls. Many times, we'd simply surround the girls and totally overwhelm them. Not to mention the fact that we all sort of acted the same way. Being a savvy, socially secure, and confident guy isn't all that appealing if every one else around is the same way. As such, you lose your uniqueness...you lose that which makes you a PUA.
Eventually though, things changed. I learned to deal with being around a bunch of 'cocks' and I learned how to work with them. It strengthened my Game because I got to see PC, Vector, Ratio, TD, PP, Smirks, the list goes on, work. In the process I also made some kick ass friends.
Now, every time I go out (without my LTR that is) I will more than likely close someone. Further, some of my more successful nights have been when I was sarging with a bunch of 'cocks.'
If you're accustom to running Game with a wing, a sign of weakness in my opinion, then going out and being involved with the 'cock fest' would be no fun. But, if you're used to running Game on your own going with a bunch of dudes that you KNOW that are COOL and approaching on YOUR OWN will definitely be beneficial to your success and development.
The board is one thing. Reading is another. Both are important, but they should be a means to a much bigger end. Said end is simple: getting into the real world.
If you're a poster on here and you NEVER come out, you're doing yourself a disservice because you don't really get to see more experienced guys in action. Further, if you're a poster and you never come out you simply lack credibility. If I see a post from Vector, Alpha, PC, etc, etc, etc then I'm going to READ it because I KNOW them in PERSON. If I've seen you once or twice, or never, no way am I going to spend a lot of time reading your thoughts (obviously this doesn't apply to the younger guys).
One final note. I can name at least 4 different occasions in which I went to Locks with the cock festers and still SNL'd, and I've seen it done many times as well. A good PUA can roll with 20 peeps and still be successful if they do it right. What does that mean? Approach alone, without the group. Then, use the group for social proof (if you so desire).
I've said this many, many times but with a good PUA closing is much like a dog dying. We tend to do it out of sight of everyone else.