Where to begin......

[bobdaily]

I am 32 and live in Fort Worth, I have been reading this forum and others and any books I can get my hands on for a while. However, reading is only going to get me so far. I guess I looking for some like minding guys to go out sarging with, To learn and hone my skills with, I have tried to my close friends but they still are holding on to the ideas of an AFC. Plus like I said I am new to this and need to learn from more seasoned PUA's. Well, any ideas tips would be appreciated.

[Scoundrel]

Welcome.

There are a few of us in Funky town. Read the posts, see who yo think you might click with and send him a PM.

[Alger]

I feel the best advice is to read up on this stuff, get involved in the community, and focus on having a good time first and foremost. I know this might sound generic like you have heard. At the same time I have learned the information picks up on you, and when you go sarging with an agenda before having a good time your game sucks.

[Gamble]

I have to disagree with Alger to a degree. I don't believe you should just read all the material you can get your hands on. In fact, I really wouldn't recommend reading any PUA books besides "The Game." Reason being is that you can get too hung up on the idea that the ideas presented in these books are the only way to pick up a girl. What I suggest is meeting some of the community members in the area, and there are quite a few of us here. Seems like everytime I go out I have to AMOG some doucher who thinks hes a master PUA.

Meet some of the guys and find some friends in the community that naturally have a similar style to your own. Even if you don't know what your style is, you will understand what I'm talking about. You'll meet someone that you get along with very well, you approach in the same ways, you help each other out in set, ect. Learn from them and refine your own skills.

Like Iv'e said before, it is easier to sharpen your own teeth than try to wear dentures. Don't try to force yourself to use the techniques that people say work if they don't fit your own personality and style. The key to getting better is to practice, practice, practice. Don't sit at home reading when you can be out sarging. You will learn a lot more from experience than through studying.

[Satyr]

I have to disagree with Alger to a degree. I don't believe you should just read all the material you can get your hands on. In fact, I really wouldn't recommend reading any PUA books besides "The Game." Reason being is that you can get too hung up on the idea that the ideas presented in these books are the only way to pick up a girl. What I suggest is meeting some of the community members in the area, and there are quite a few of us here. Seems like everytime I go out I have to AMOG some doucher who thinks hes a master PUA.

Meet some of the guys and find some friends in the community that naturally have a similar style to your own. Even if you don't know what your style is, you will understand what I'm talking about. You'll meet someone that you get along with very well, you approach in the same ways, you help each other out in set, ect. Learn from them and refine your own skills.

Like Iv'e said before, it is easier to sharpen your own teeth than try to wear dentures. Don't try to force yourself to use the techniques that people say work if they don't fit your own personality and style. The key to getting better is to practice, practice, practice. Don't sit at home reading when you can be out sarging. You will learn a lot more from experience than through studying.

2nded...

[Alger]

In fact, I really wouldn't recommend reading any PUA books besides "The Game." Reason being is that you can get too hung up on the idea that the ideas presented in these books are the only way to pick up a girl.

I agree that getting too hung up on the ideas is really bad. I say read the material for fun and every idea in the books does not need to be applied or used. It can offer insight though.

[Satyr]

I agree that getting too hung up on the ideas is really bad. I say read the material for fun and every idea in the books does not need to be applied or used. It can offer insight though.

There's nothing wrong with reading and getting a different perspective. But, in my opinion, everything you read is not really all that applicable to you as an individual. Sure, you can get some ideas, but you're never, ever going to develop your skill set and create your own style of PU if you just take an idea from one book and another from another book.

Like most in the Community, I read "The Game" then I skimmed over "Mystery Method." I bought one or two of David D's CDs (cocky funny and online dating, the former was helpful but the latter sucked). Over the years, I've tried to read but didn't complete a few dozen ebooks and other sources of information. That was about the extent of my 'formal education.' Instead of reading everything out there, I adopted a handful of concepts that were intuitive for me to understand, and thus, implement. I focused on 4 or 5 specific things to execute and figured that if I took care of these things, if I executed on them, then everything else would fall into place. For me, it was storytelling, cocky/funny, comfort building, sexual innuendos, and non-verbal cues (this encompasses understanding her non-verbal cues and how to project confidence, success, and strength through my non-verbal cues). I focused on tightening those things up and that's made all the difference in the world for me.

Over time, I've really felt that the more I've read, the worse my Game got because I started getting too fancy. There's a guy in Dallas, Bull Run (I think he's a member here and at Lair), whose post I once read about this very thing and he basically said that PU is based on two concepts: focus and Occam's Razor. Basically he was saying that you should focus your energies on a handful of simple concepts and if you execute on those concepts then you're going to be incredibly dangerous in the field. If you've noticed, you'll see that that's so true because virtually every "Guru" has some kind of specific niche that they've mined and execute on over and over again. They're probably not as successful outside of their specific niche, but when they're working their niche they're scary dangerous because they've taken a handful of simple concepts, strung them together, and execute on them.

The problem is finding which of the tactics/techniques/concepts/ideology/whatever suits you best. You'll get an idea of what you want to try by reading, but it'll be a long arduous process. If you put the books down and start experimenting, start asking more experienced guys for advice, start watching other guys run their Game, then you're going to find out what things you need to focus on. Once you've discovered the things that you're going to focus on, it's all about practice from there.

Read a little, get familiar with our Jargon, with the general concept of PU (which, I think, "The Game" will provide for you). Then, put down the books and start living in the real world.

[Scoundrel]

As for reading books, I have found the oldest ones to be the most helpful. Things like The Art of Macking.