trying to reprogram aka break new ground

[tpxgloveboy]

Okay so I'm past the opening stage and maintaining a conversation with a girl and keeping her interested...I think I need to become more sexual.....in other words, have her develop more of a sexual attraction for me....right now, I think I'm at a point where I'm the random guy that comes in that's so fun to be around and is constantly making people around him laugh, and I get numbers, but I never escalate into her possibly coming back to my place.....

I'm trying to reprogram...

I'm developing a myspace or actually redesign the whole thing, update it, configure it along the lines of advice of what fellow PUA's have given, so hopefully I can attempt online picking up and try new routines/lines out on girls that I dont' know and just experiment...

right now on facebook, i'm talking to a couple different girls, but I want to escalate somehow...dont' really know how to go about doing it...

First there is HB7.5.....I'm in a fraternity, she's in a sorority....we're doing this Greek Week Dance together where sororities and fraternities on campus are paired up with each other and compete against each other in a dance competition....so HB7.5 hit it off at our little IceBreaker we had a few weeks ago and I just told her at a random point in our initial conversation, "That's it....I've decided we are dancing together" or something along those lines.....we were hitting it off so well that she laughed and was like, "okay, cool." Well, we end up not dancing anymore because she is taking classes to prepare her for Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Tryouts....we're kind of joking around back and forth on facebook and this is what has developed....

February 29th 12.36 A.M.
HB7.5 :thanks for the sweaty hug today! haha that sounds gross

March 2nd 3.03 P.M.
tpxgloveboy:ya i'm going to have to bring an extra towel....like one of those beach towels next time I go to the gym....not for me, but for you...lol

March 2nd 6.03 P.M.
HB7.5: hahaha ok so write on my wall 5 days after i write on yours then insult me!!! thats okay!!!

March 2nd 9.14 P.M.
tpxgloveboy:i was just letting the suspense build up...we need to run TOGETHER sometime though

March 2nd 11.34 P.M.
HB7.5: yes we do!! im usually up there!! i bet i can outrun you i have GREEEAAAAAT stamina!

March 3rd 11.38 A.M.
tpxgloveboy: whoa.....so now you're calling me out and you're related to Tony The Tiger??? you are of a higher class than I originally thought Ms. HB7.5

March 3rd 12.45 P.M.
HB7.5: oh yeah me and tony go wayy back!! lol your funny!

okay....I guess first of all, how do you guys think my game is up to this point based on this observation? I guess i"m doing a push-pull thing by telling her I need to bring an extra towel because she sweats too much but then saying she is a higher class (although I do say it sarcastically)....I get the comment that I'm funny a lot, but I usually just say 'thanx' or something mundane....how can I go about my game from here? How can I change it up? She is into me...I've already told her since she skipped out on being my dance partner, she can make it up by taking me to dinner which she agreed....I don't know...

Also, just a side question....do you guys believe that there are girls out there who are truly good, innocent girls where formulas and methods dont' work out and they are just genuine down-to-earth girls or can they all be broken?


My 2nd facebook interaction is going along the lines of this:

So this is HB8.5 who I met by going to a fundraiser they had and meeting her and definitely hit it off...

Last week, I decide to restart some convo between me and her on facebook...

February 27th 1.20 P.M.
tpxgloveboy: ha....you are so gangsta with those deuces...haha

March 2nd 4.27 P.M.
HB8.5: i know this!....lol...so what have you been up to? haven't seen you around in awhile?

March 3rd 11.35 A.M.
tpxgloveboy: haha i took you for one of those girls who likes to chill on the couch at home with some Ben & Jerry's ice cream watching movies curled up in a blanket, and then OCCASIONALLY you'll go out on the town.....are my assumptions wrong?

March 3rd 4.07 P.M.
HB8.5: really? well, im kind of both. I like to chill, but I do go out a lot. When it's really cold outside I like to stay in bc I don't like the cold. What about you? Ur more of the going out type right?

Okay, so that's all that's been said on that exchange....I can see she is qualifying herself or whatever.....I think I could go for the number here or even get her to come out with me sometime....how should I go about doing this or even escalating somehow?

[JP2008]

March 2nd 11.34 P.M.
HB7.5: yes we do!! im usually up there!! i bet i can outrun you i have GREEEAAAAAT stamina!

I would not have let this go without a more flirty response. There is some underlying innuendo here.

JP

[zine]

I get the comment that I'm funny a lot, but I usually just say 'thanx' or something mundane....how can I go about my game from here? How can I change it up?

easy, what I usually do for compliments is agree and disqualify. This means something like:

her: haha you always so funny
Me: yeah I agree, but I google all my jokes you know :p
her: haha I knew it! (flirtation)

this shows that you are genuine and comfortable enough with yourself that you are cool even with your faults. It causes her to want to relate to you on a deeper level, and is extremely effective on not just girls, but people in general. You are not proving yourself at all doing this, try it out and tell me how it goes for ya.

Also, just a side question....do you guys believe that there are girls out there who are truly good, innocent girls where formulas and methods dont' work out and they are just genuine down-to-earth girls or can they all be broken?

Why you look at it like that? To me I'm not breaking girls, but sharing part of my life with them. I have a true connection and like every girl I meet. I enjoy all my time with them, and they enjoy their time with me greatly. Sex is just part of the fun. Genuine down to earth girls like it too, and genuine down to earth girls are attracted to genuine down to earth guys like me.

You really doing a pretty good job by yourself man. These girls are obviously attracted to you, and I really think you doing pretty good on your own.

[YellowStarS2k]

Also, just a side question....do you guys believe that there are girls out there who are truly good, innocent girls where formulas and methods dont' work out and they are just genuine down-to-earth girls or can they all be broken?

While I'm not qualified to comment on the rest, I think that there are such girls. My soon to be exgirlfriend would fall into this category. I was absurdly AFCish to her and I still got her. She is a FOB, so that might attribute to her innocent, and pure heart. I doubt if any of such routines or strategies would work on her. She'd make a great wife, I just am not ready to settle down by any means yet. I'm not sure if this can apply to white girls.

[Vector]

HB7.5: yes we do!! im usually up there!! i bet i can outrun you i have GREEEAAAAAT stamina!

On this one she is definitely opening the door for you to take it somewhere else. She's curious what you're going to do with it. You don't have to go all perverted in response but you should at least acknowledge the innuendo. You could have responded with "Mental note: claims she has great stamina" and then move on.

If you ignore it (or if you miss it) she's going to think you're asexual or that you're afraid of sex or talking about sex.

Also, just a side question....do you guys believe that there are girls out there who are truly good, innocent girls where formulas and methods dont' work out and they are just genuine down-to-earth girls or can they all be broken?

I really don't like this question because I think it contains presuppositions that are not correct. I'm not saying you believe all these things, but this is part of the bag of concepts that I think it leads to.
- methods don't work on good girls
- methods shouldn't work on good girls
- methods are evil, sneaky trickery
- using a method is "breaking" a girl (or at least her defenses)
- a girl has to be "bad" or "tainted" (not innocent) for a method to work
- methods require the girl to be not genuine in order to work

How about this:
Girls, even good girls, want to be seduced. Even the young, innocent women who still believe in the Knight in Shining Armor fantasy still want to get swept off their feet. They want a man who can make her feel a certain way.

The difference between a good or down-to-earth girl versus a party girl or a gamey gold-digger is not this universal desire. The difference is how they balance the natural internal desire versus the external social pressure for chastity, and in the case of girls who are not genuine and play games, what else they think they can get.

The methods are about giving a girl what she wants naturally (which is often very different from what she says she wants). And about removing the social pressure so that she can do what she really wants to do.

[Dragon]

Although I have no PUA advice to give.. I am learning from you, too.

But I do have one observation.

Vector is right.
In the past my predisposition about Good Girl and what they should be was all in my head and not what is reality. IN essence, I was putting them on a pedestal even too high for Jesus to reach and something I can never obtain.

NOw, I look back at all the girls I could've had and was stupid enough to ignor the signs, thinking I was not good enough.

I like that one comment by Zine in this post... "To me I'm not breaking girls, but sharing part of my life with them. I have a true connection and like every girl I meet. I enjoy all my time with them, and they enjoy their time with me greatly. Sex is just part of the fun...." This way of thinking really setup for success and experiencing life to the fullest.