I have a confession to make.

[El Fenix]

You can do as I did when I first started out: have a few beers until the AA is gone and have less every night until you can open sober.

[Scoundrel]

I want to thank everyone for the input (and for not calling me a pussy).

I started gaming strippers because I thought they’d be the most difficult targets. I thought, “If I can nail a stripper normal chicks would be easy." What I’ve learned is that my shyness often comes of as me seeming aloof and many chicks see it as a sign of something attractive. For example, I walked over to a friend in a bar recently to talk about something and the girl he was talking to grabbed my hand introduced herself and told me how cool my clothes were. I thanked her and then gave her a back turn and talked to my friend. In other words, I made her work for my attention. I act this way normally, without thought.

I’ve already started chatting up girls at places like Whataburger and 7/11 and I mostly get them to smile. I’ve also been working on eye contact. I used to become so self-conscious when a chick caught me looking at her. Now I’m really making an effort to hold it until she looks away and to give her a little smile.

Baby steps.

[antivisual]

Doing better than me sir! I am just now starting out on reading material etc though. So, do you find strippers easy to get in the sack now?

[Scoundrel]

I wouldn't say easy, but you don't have to open them. Rainman started a good thread about this.

http://dallaspua.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1294

[Rembrandt]

I'm no PUA but here's what I've been trying lately at the beginning of the evening when I go out to a bar/club.

I usually drink a couple of beers and just try to chat with whatever fat/ugly chicks happen to be nearby just to get into a conversational mood. I truly don't care if they blow me off (In my mind i'm doing them a favor) plus I'm not trying to pick them up. They are also good for trying out new jokes/stories to see how well they go over.

I don't get nervous because I'm not attracted to them. They are usually grateful for the attention. Anyway, I find it to be a good warm up.

[Bull Run]

I'm no PUA but here's what I've been trying lately at the beginning of the evening when I go out to a bar/club.

I usually drink a couple of beers and just try to chat with whatever fat/ugly chicks happen to be nearby just to get into a conversational mood. I truly don't care if they blow me off (In my mind i'm doing them a favor) plus I'm not trying to pick them up. They are also good for trying out new jokes/stories to see how well they go over.

I don't get nervous because I'm not attracted to them. They are usually grateful for the attention. Anyway, I find it to be a good warm up.

This is true, but make sure you don't get stuck doing it all the time. It can become a crutch.

[Smirks]

my wing and I are currently working on making this second nature. We're taking Westfall's approach of walking in, opening, and regardless of how good /bad it goes, eject. What is helping me right now, is when I walk up to open...I tell myself the target isn't actually in the group. I'm opening 2+ people I have no interest in what-so-ever. In my head, that kind of makes it a bit easier...

[Finesse]

I want to thank everyone for the input (and for not calling me a pussy).

I started gaming strippers because I thought they’d be the most difficult targets. I thought, “If I can nail a stripper normal chicks would be easy." What I’ve learned is that my shyness often comes of as me seeming aloof and many chicks see it as a sign of something attractive. For example, I walked over to a friend in a bar recently to talk about something and the girl he was talking to grabbed my hand introduced herself and told me how cool my clothes were. I thanked her and then gave her a back turn and talked to my friend. In other words, I made her work for my attention. I act this way normally, without thought.

I’ve already started chatting up girls at places like Whataburger and 7/11 and I mostly get them to smile. I’ve also been working on eye contact. I used to become so self-conscious when a chick caught me looking at her. Now I’m really making an effort to hold it until she looks away and to give her a little smile.

Baby steps.

Pussy.

[Atlas]

Sounds like once your past the initiation stage you know where to take things from there. A lot of my friends are AFCs and go up to college girls making it so obvious that all they want is sex or trying to "pick up chicks." Personally, I try to find the most natural thing to say, as if they were some regular person I had no interest in picking up. In fact, I try to immerse myself in the fact that I DON'T want to hookup with the person just so I can overcome the fear of initiating.

For example, if shes at the coffee shop, pretend your having trouble deciding what to buy. Let her see you doing this. Then glance over and say "Hey that smells good! What did you order?" You indirectly complimented her taste, and shes likely to respond positively. Order the same drink and then as you walk back to a table, Take a sip and almost exaggeratively say, "WOW! This IS good."

She'll most likely laugh and make small talk. Then, if shes alone, ask if she minds if you sit with her. This is where you seem to work nicely, as you can game the girls that have opened up to you.

These trivial and seemingly natural conversation starters can be applied to almost any environment or situation. Let me know if you have other scenarios and I'll be glad to reply.