When a girl asks for your phone number....

[Suave]

Need opinion on something..

Me and two homeboys went out for a chill night on Thursday. We were in Lewisville. First we hit up Applebee's for some half-price appetizers and a few beers. Its not usually happening, but Thursday was pretty crunk. A lot of ppl and good music. So anyways, we are just chillin, shootin the shit, when i see a two set at the bar. HB9 and her friend. This girl looks real familiar and Im pretty sure I dated her. So after a while, she has noticed me noticing her and all that. I never did an approach. I was just chilling with the boys. So I see this AFC talking to her, obviously she is bored. I was going to go open it up, and save her, but I failed.. She and her friend left before I could open.

No biggie. I wasn't really there to open anything.

They two set leaves, and we leave shortly after. We drive around, then finally settle at a local bar, Sterlings...

Guess who I see again... The same HB9.

I go play pool with my boys, and apparently one of my buddies opened her up for me while I was gone.. Talking about, hey don't you know my buddy. I didn't really appreciate that, b/c DLV for me ( looks as if Im to scared to open)

Shortly after, she walks up to our pool table and I kinda glance at her and say: Hey I think Iknow you from somewhere... She starts talking about how we went out to Firewater and made out.. etc...

So Im gaming her a bit, and then try to number close so we can go our separate ways.. She says.. well just give me your number...

I say: "Oh.. so thats how it is huh?" Kinda playful like she ain't never going to call it.

So anyways.. WE talked a bit more, then she just dipped out, we don't exchange numbers...

Later in the night, I go up to the bar and close my tab, and as I walk past her table, I hand her my receipt folded up, as if I had left my number on it... When I get back to my pool game, I see her looking at the front and back of the paper, confused look on her face... She doesn't see my nubmer. She looks at me and Im just laughing...I'm thinking.. Im not giving this girl my number, she is gonna have to give me hers...

So her friend comes up to me later and tells me that Im an asshole.. I try to explain myself, but they just leave after a while...

So long story short, what should I have done in that siutation? The reason I didn't give her my number is b/c we went on this date to Firewater and hit it off pretty good. Making out the whole time, etc... But after that night, she doesn't ever hit me up again... not sure what happened. So I figure if she doesn't give me her number, she obviously ain't interested right?

She said she was single, but I have no idea.

[Vector]

Let it be and move on. Sounds like she wasn't into you enough. The number isn't the problem. Attraction is the problem. The fact that your friend opened her may have contributed to that. And it sounded like on a prior occasion she had decided not to hang out with you. So at a minimum you have an uphill battle. If you game her only "a bit" she probably won't change her inclination.

Going to the trouble to give her a folded up blank piece of paper, drawing attention to the fact that you're not giving her your number, lowers your value more. If I were her I would interpret it as you being mad and getting back at her, trying to make her look dumb because you didn't get what you wanted. If it wasn't over already, it definitely is by that point.

[Smile]

I agree with Vector on the fact that you should let it go and move on. Also, I thought it was funny how you gave her a blank piece of paper. But if you do that again MAKE SURE you let her know you are joking (with a smile or wink) and not being a cocky asshole. How was your body language when you gave it to her that night? I hate to say it because I know you would have loved to close the set and don't want to piss off girls but if she gets mad then that's her problem and you probably don't want to hang out with her anyway. I think giving a girl a blank piece of paper could work but only if pulled off in a certain manner. I think that Vector is right in saying that the attraction was not there, otherwise she probably would not have become mad. Also, did you disarm the friend? The friend sounds pissed because she knew they were both hot and could not get your number (acting like girl AFCs). I am glad you did not give her your number.

[Atlas]

First of all I have to give you a hats off for totally negging that girl and making up for the DLV that your friend forced upon you. I would say try to go to the same bar at a similar time to see if she shows up again. You can smooth talk her and make amends. If anything, you learned from that. It raised your confidence and gave you some data as a field test. Either that istn' effective or that woman as a specimen was a dud. Either way you have style.

[Welsh_Dragon]

So Im gaming her a bit, and then try to number close so we can go our separate ways.. She says.. well just give me your number...

If a hot girl attempts to number close you just give her your phone and let her put it in. It is a massive IOI from girls. If you really must neg (Why? This is miscalibration) just act nonchalonte about the whole thing. Hand the phone to her and go back to your pool shot and don't pay attention to what she is doing. That would be DHV. I personally would reward her for the #close with IOI and kino. She was clearly interested.

Sending her a blank piece of paper when she asked for your number is just rude. This is why her friend called you an asshole and they left. I would expect nothing less.

Also I don't think it matters a jot who opens a set. Or really even when. The n second rule is for newbies because otherwise they will never open a set. Once you have face time you get a clean slate anyway. Plus she was obviously attracted to attempt to number close you. And you made out with her. And she remembered where. And when. That qualifies as bigtime attraction in my book. Does she need to hand it to you on a plate?

[zine]

I agree with welsh, this girl was into you. You should reward her when she shows interest. What you did was sort of a punishment for her showing interest in you. Next time a girl tries to give you her number just say oh alright awesome we will trade, give her your number and get her to call you right there. Always show interest for things you like. Showing interest makes people feel good about themselves, and don't you want them feeling good about themselves when they make you feel good?

[Finesse]

Does she need to hand it to you on a plate?

Yoink!

[Atlas]

If she has your number, she has to call YOU. That means that when she does she's the one that has to be the awkward one to make the call. When you call, it implies that you aren't busy enough to keep yourself occupied, which is why you call. But when she calls, you can seem as busy as you want, and accept the offer to go out without being the "needy" one. Someone reply to this if it doesn't make any sense and I can elaborate.

[Finesse]

Doesn't make sense.

[Atlas]

I was saying how the situation is akin to when a a guy calls a girl too soon to getting her number, which implies that he doesn't have much going on and is needy. By not having to call her at all, you don't seem like the dependent one, and therefore she is the one initiating the pursuit for YOU, rather than you for HER.