what tools do you use create a personal connection?

[Sage]

I'm curious to see what sorts of methods and tools you guys use to create a personal connection to the women you're interacting with.

[zine]

haha there's some irony in that question. The best tool I use is her. She will tell you how to seduce her you just have to notice the hints. The biggest key is to not judge them negatively for anything, and be totally honest about your own beliefs and opinions on things.

Her: I like purple flowers
Me: yeah purple flowers can be interesting sometimes, but I really like fake ones.. they are much easier to water :p.

like her for her. That's the easiest way to create a personal connection with a girl.

[Welsh_Dragon]

Brother this question IS the game in my opinion. If you create a strong enough connection to the girl she literally ignores all underlying programming and goes with the flow. Essentially she follows her heart. Ever heard that expression before?

Try to eliminate all logical sticking points first (outer game). Women search for BL, EC, Style, etc.. because it disarms their logical objections (he doesn't look creepy he looks good. He must be OK. And he has cool friends (that you made 5 minutes ago)). You can attempt the game looking like a creey engineer and standing in Wankers corner if you want. It is akin to playing major league baseball with a tee ball bat (wow I used an American expression i've been here too long haha). Fix the obvious stuff first.

That having been said the connection is built right from the start and all the way throughout. It is in essence positive energy between two people. Your job is to weave the magic.


Here is my "map" per se. Funny now that I consider this I have never thought about it before. I always build a connection ad lib.

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Open
Attract
Rapport
Break Rapport
Isolate

(NB. I Screen a lot so the Open Attract part may be repeated a few times. Others don't do it that way)

Thanks to Adam London this is down pretty well now.

Next guide her into deliberately deep questions. There are a million ways. Here is one example - obviously tailored to me. Girls often tip this stuff off first - sometimes on purpose.


Me: I just got in to Dallas from London a few hours ago. My job has me all over the time clock these days. Don't you hate those 10 hour flights? Especially since they took off the free grog.

Her: Really etc. so are you from London then?

You: Actually i'm based in Dallas now but it's a British company. Have you ever been to Europe?

Her: OMG I spent the best 6 months backpacking across Europe when I was 21 ... or ... OMG my ex bf was from England we lived in Reading ... or whatever x 100000000

... and away we go ... and you LISTEN for a while ...

This is a connection point. The dialog took 15-20 seconds. I just keep ploughing this stuff until I get a hit. Usually I get one pretty quick but I have also talked to enough women to know what they want. Like I said they often give you a few for free depending if they want you to play easy or hard level tonight. They better watch out though because Mr.Screen has his finger on the red button.

It is akin to a crossword. Once you solve 1 across you may get one of the letters for 3 down. The deeper you are in the easier it becomes.

Also Kino escalate at the same time. This is another post entirely.

[Sage]

I don't understand. I know the open, attract, raport building routine... but all along the way you have to be creating a personal connection as opposed to a superficial interaction. I'm trying to figure out what types of things to say or do that cross over from "superficial" to "personal".

[Welsh_Dragon]

Nothing superficial. All personal.

Then look for opportunities to escalate.

[Sage]

Nothing superficial. All personal.

Then look for opportunities to escalate.

That doesn't answer the question at all. I'm asking what is personal as opposed to superficial. What tools, routines, etc do you use to make things personal as opposed to superficial.

[zine]

a girl wants to know first of all why she should be interested in you, then second of all why you being the interesting, cool guy that you came off across as would be interested in her. Like I said, like her for her. That's as personal as it gets man. Not the fake front girls put off, but the real girl inside. The one that likes puppy dogs and ice cream cones. Find out a reason to be interested in her that's unique. A useful tip for doing this is relating on an emotional level. Emotions are always personal. An entire pickup in my opinion is about creating emotional spikes and valleys in the girls mind. An example of this from a girl I was talking to earlier:

Me: yeah, I just got back from the dance a thon thing, and realized that I can't dance worth crap compared to some of them. Can you dance?

Her: lol, oh that was tonight. haha at least you had fun dancing. and yea i love to dance, been doing since i was 4. lol. (right here is the hook to personal because im interested in girls that can dance)

Me: lol yeah? you lucky then. You get to teach me how to be badass at dancing. What is it that you like about dancing? (right here is me getting her to describe something that's obviously important to her if shes been doin since she was 4)

Her: yup lol. sure i'll teach you how to be a badass dancer. idk it's just that when you dance your whole mind is cleared and nothing else matters. and it's just fun. (in bold are all the values she gave me for me to elicit)

Me: haha that sounds like an amazing feeling to have. I used to run alot.. kinda out of shape now tho lol, but when I did run it was like this crazy peace just set over you. (there I related her values to my life in an emotional way) Damn you make me really want to learn to dance or run now lol. I really want to learn to get better at dancing. What's your number? I will call you make sure your aren't a crazy person :p, and we will set it up.

Her: lol, then you should get up and dance lol. well i'm going to learn how to ballroom dance soon, you should come take it with me, and i'll teach you other things that you want to learn. lol.


That's not the most amazing example it was just the easiest to copy and paste :p, but I do think this will help you understand.

Nothing superficial. All personal.

Then look for opportunities to escalate.

I agree, emotions are personal. Seeing her for her is personal, and after you show this genuine and deserved interest to her, escalate.

[Sage]

What do you mean seeing her for her? If she doesn't show who she is, how do you find that out? So, you're supposed to talk about emotions? I don't see where the conversation you posted is any different than any other conversation. Can you highlight the key areas and explain how you manipulated it to stimulate a personal connection? What demonstrated genuine interest as opposed to a more superficial interaction?

[zine]

alright edited.

[Sage]

So it sounds like you use a two-step process:

1. find something she's interested in

2. responding to her comments about that using words that indicate emotion


That all seems too simple. I don't really see how this creates a personal connection that normal good conversation doesnt. Anyone able to explain it to me?

And, could you list some "emotional" words to be used for step 2?

I think I'm starting to figure it out, thanks.


Oh, and how often or how many times do you run this routine with each girl?