Project Dallas: Closer To A Reality Than You Might Think

[phoenix_rising]

I recently read a thread concerning "a cool house to party" and the response it conjured really got me amped up. If I had the means to move this from concept to reality, A) Who are the prodominate PUA's on this forum that I need to speak with? B) How many PUA's would be interested? and give their support? C) Where would be the best location? I won't go into specific detail in this post, mainly cause I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, but this is definitly an avenue I wouldn't mind walking down.

-phoenix

[Sage]

When it comes to the business and legal ends of the deal I am without a doubt the person to consult. And since I also take a personal interest in the project, I won't even charge you any consulting fee's!

[phoenix_rising]

Well to be honest, i'm disappointed that there has been a lack of response to this thread, however sage, thank you and I'll keep you informed

-A sad Phoenix

[zrONE]

Phoenix,

I had PM'ed one of the guys from the old thread about Project Dallas and never heard back. I will be moving to Dallas in November, and as I already need somewhere to stay would be very interested. I have quite a lot to offer financially/furniture/electronics/etc.

Keep me posted and PM me if you would like.

-z

[Sage]

I think you guys need to start a project dallas in the windsor so that I can come hang out

oh and I'll definitely provide you with the local hookups

[Westfall]

I recently read a thread concerning "a cool house to party" and the response it conjured really got me amped up. If I had the means to move this from concept to reality, A) Who are the prodominate PUA's on this forum that I need to speak with? B) How many PUA's would be interested? and give their support? C) Where would be the best location? I won't go into specific detail in this post, mainly cause I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, but this is definitly an avenue I wouldn't mind walking down.

Phoneix,

I don't live in Dallas, but I do have an few ideas that might be of interest. Instead of having Project Dallas be a place where a few Puas live, I think an awesome project Dallas would be to go in with a few of the more business-minded PUAs here and buy a bar. In addition to all the intangable benfits this would have, it would also generate cash flow for the partners.

Also, if a group of you do go in on a project, it would be nice to have a 2nd place in Dallas to bounce HBs to on weekends, so I might be interested in participation on a limited basis.

WF

[Sage]

Phoneix,

I don't live in Dallas, but I do have an few ideas that might be of interest. Instead of having Project Dallas be a place where a few Puas live, I think an awesome project Dallas would be to go in with a few of the more business-minded PUAs here and buy a bar. In addition to all the intangable benfits this would have, it would also generate cash flow for the partners.

Also, if a group of you do go in on a project, it would be nice to have a 2nd place in Dallas to bounce HBs to on weekends, so I might be interested in participation on a limited basis.

WF

while it sounds like a great idea at first, I've considered this before and have a few friends that own prominent bars and clubs in Dallas. First of all, it requires a LOT of hands-on management. The owners that I know are there EVERY NIGHT. There is so much cash that moves through those places that its VERY tempting to steal, and they have to watch everyone like a hawk. It's not paranoia, it's necessary. Secondly, there are a TON of legal liabilities and you have to worry a lot about keeping TABC happy. Then of course there are alwaya going to be issues with customers to be delt with. Now, I do know some managers of bars whos owners are not so hand-on, but I wouldn't want to take that risk being that I know so little about operating a service establishment.

[Westfall]

while it sounds like a great idea at first, I've considered this before and have a few friends that own prominent bars and clubs in Dallas. First of all, it requires a LOT of hands-on management. The owners that I know are there EVERY NIGHT. There is so much cash that moves through those places that its VERY tempting to steal, and they have to watch everyone like a hawk. It's not paranoia, it's necessary. Secondly, there are a TON of legal liabilities and you have to worry a lot about keeping TABC happy. Then of course there are alwaya going to be issues with customers to be delt with. Now, I do know some managers of bars whos owners are not so hand-on, but I wouldn't want to take that risk being that I know so little about operating a service establishment.

Having trustworthy & compotent management is essential in any buisness. I have no doubt we would be able to find such people looking for an oppertunity to prove they can manage a bar. Being an owner is easy, all you have to do is 1) buy the right business at the right price and 2) find the right person to manage it.

I'm sure Mojo could give some insight as he's already build a business that is self-sustainable.

WF

[Twitchy]

I have owned businesses in the past. In fact, had 17 going on at once. It is a tough life, even as an owner. Minimum wage employees are notorious for not being great managers or great humans (my apologies to any hospitality managers out there - there are good ones).

I have had managers sell drugs out of my store, come to work drunk or high, punch employees, sexually harrass them, steal from me in any manner of ways, hook up their friends with freebies, violate TABC laws, refuse to do what I ask of them, have sex in the store, give good shifts for blow jobs, etc.

There are easier ways to get women than opening a bar.

However, if you do, in Dallas you have to really consider your strategy.

If you want to be one of the elite bars (where the hottest women go), be prepared for lots of competition. And in your business plan, prepare to shut down, change the name and remodel every year to year and a half.

The only bars that remain year after year in Dallas are the laid back ones - think The Loon, Old Monk, Gravevine bar. However, those are mostly frequented by guys.

[Westfall]

I have owned restaurants and restaurant/bars in the past. In fact, had 17 going on at once. It is a tough life, even as an owner.

Interesting. How did you get started? owning 17 businesses is quite an accomplishment. How'd you do it?

I have had managers sell drugs out of my store, come to work drunk or high, punch employees, sexually harrass them, steal from me in any manner of ways, hook up their friends with freebies, violate TABC laws, refuse to do what I ask of them, have sex in the store, give good shifts for blow jobs, etc.

This is exactly why I can't be a bar manager. I would totally give good shifts away for blow jobs. Seriously though, can you screen out people like this? I know several people in this community alone that I would trust as bar manager.

I just can't imagine a manager not doing what you ask them to do...would they not know they'd get fired for this?

In any case, you're certainly right that Dallas is saturated with bars...in any case there is substantial demand for a bar up here in Texarkana. We have like one shitty bar and 2 shitty clubs.

WF