How many dates do you have to make before you actually get 1

[Sage]

How many dates do you have to make before you actually end up getting to go on one? Not specifically how many attempts with one girl, but how many attempts at a date with any girl before you get one. This includes women saying agreeine to one at an ambiguous time in the future and never following through, cancelling once you've made one, and flat out standing you up. Compare to your AFC days in comments.

[TheRussian]

If she flakes on you/ you think she may in the future, I would give her Dave D's line.

"Is there any chance that you will not show up? I can tolerate many things, but unfortunately the thing that ends friendships for me the quickest is people who do not respect my time and act flakey."

This line will usually eliminate the flake, or will cause the girl to blow out and get pissed off at you, in which case she was planning to flake.

Oh and btw, I get way more flakes if i'm gaming online then if I was gaming out in the field. Seems like the internet causes flakes more often.

[Twitchy]

I haven't had a flake in over a year. Why? Because I follow the MM steps and make sure she is 1) attracted and 2) qualified before I even ask them on a date.

If dates are flaking, it is usually because you are screwing up at the opening/attraction phase. Practice and learn.

[Scoundrel]

I still get a flake once in a while. I posted the way I handle it before. I don't care what these guys are saying, nobody get 100%. But, as you get more and more dates, you'll have fewer flakes. Seeing many women gives you that "IT" thing. **PRE-SELECTION**

[zine]

I agree with the other guys. Flakes mean you did something wrong in the initial meet. Normally either she didn't qualify herself enough to you causing her to be attracted to you, or you didn't qualify yourself enough to her making her feel that you are human with faults.

Sometimes it isn't your fault though. Some things just aren't under your control, but if you follow the normal steps for getting a girl into you your flake ratio will be very low.

[Kraven]

Sup PUAs,

I wrote a longer post but I think this encapsulates it:

Call to set up dates/day 2s while you're already out doing something fun, like sarging other targets at a mall or bar (or on another day 2 if you have a moment). I think most of my phone game is run while out doing something. You get a sort of momentum being around all these chicks having fun and HBs totally pick up on the non neediness.

[Sage]

Keep in mind that not everyone operates on the idea of "sarging in the field" and "day2s". I will ONLY date girls who are already in my social network.

[Kraven]

Sup Sage,

You should look into expanding ("sarging in the field") or modifying your social network - your flakes are relative to your targets perception of you in them

Feel free to PM me to clarify terms

[Twitchy]

Flakes happen... girls change their mind, go out with one of the other 5 guys they gave their number to that week, find the next shiny object or go back to their boyfriends.

However, here is how I look at it. If I was Brad Pitt, would they flake on me? Nope. If you have done your job and attracted them and demonstrated high value, you are not going to get many flakes.

[Danger]

but I AM Brad Pitt!!