Bagging a cougar?

[El Fenix]

I've had things going well with older women(cougars) in the past whilst sarging then they always ask "how old are you?" And they want a true answer. When I tell them I'm 25, I get blown out. Not sure why. I've tried the Mys thing of "I'll
give you a min to get over it," but that hasn't worked.

When I make them guess, they usually guess about 28 or 29, and their fine with that, BUT somehow 25 doesnt fly.
Not sure of what the answer to this one is...other than lying to women...(which i hate)......about my age....to be OLDER.

I'm looking for some tips on specifically gaming a woman older than me, and how to deal with the age thingy.

[Rainman]

reply:
1)"too old/young for you" calibrate depending on the tone of her question
2)"old enough"
3)"lets not worry about age"

[phoenix_rising]

In the past whenever I've dealt with cougars, I dance around the age question. I'm 22, most of the cougars in recent memories have all been 10+ years older than I. If you wing is older than you that helps. Say my wing is 28, and through conversation, I come off more mature than my wing. Without even talking about age, she will assume you are older than your wing. Other ways of danceing around age. if she asks, make her guess, if she think your 26, just say,"Ah, your just too cute, keep complimenting me like that, and I'm going to have to through you over my shoulder, take you back to my place". Cougars are great.

-phoenix

[Neil]

El Fenix,

My last experience with a cougar when asked my age went a little like this:

Cougar: How old are you?
Me: How old do I look?
Cougar: 32 (I am 28)
Me: Awesome, thank you

I then immediately changed the subject. I never told them my age, and went on letting them think that I was 32. After we hung out a little bit, I let slip, purposefully, what my age was. She said, "you told me you were 32."
Since I always respond the same way to that question, no matter what they say, I knew what it was that I said and reminded her of it.

It was no big deal after that. She pretty much just laughed about it and said if she would have known that I was 28, she wouldn't have kept talking to me. By this time she enjoyed my company and it was no big deal.

This only works though if you can keep the subject changed and not let them ask you out right if they are correct or not.

Let me know how this works for you. It almost always works for me.

Neil

[El Fenix]

I will give it a shot. I'll post up about how it goes.

[TheScientist]

I don't think "bagging a cougar" is a good idea. Cougars are catch and release game. They aren't house pets.

[dubya]

I don't know if this would work, I've never tried it but; have you read Caldini's Influence: The power of Persuetion.

One fo the chapters in there he talks about a boyscout who sales him a candybar. The boyscout starts out trying to sell him something else, I don't remember what but it was more expensive. When Caldini says 'no' the boyscout says okay then buy a candybar for a dollar and Caldini does it. If the boyscout had just asked him to buy a candybar he wouldn't have... but a dollar for one thing you don't want is not as bad as $10 for something else you don't want. But the $10 has to be turned down before the $1 is presented.

I said all that just to say this.
When she ask your age tell a ridiculously obvious lie. Tell her your 16 or 12. Then when she says 'no, really' tell her your real age. The idea is that her mind would compare your real age to a much lower one making your real age not look so young. Same as with Caldini's candybar, the obvious rejection would have to come first.

Like I said though, I really don't know if it would work. I've never tried it.

[Tribulus1000]

This sounds more like Hoop theory than an actual question. The best way to answer would be to throw up another hoop like "Guess".

There's a great little game you can do with this called "Guess my age" and it goes like this:

HB: How old are you?
PUA: Ok guess but if you get it wrong, you have to give me a kiss (point to cheek).
HB: 27
PUA: Nope. (point to cheek)

And so on...you can then guess their age and go for cheek kisses with them or be bold and lay a good smacker on her.

This idea and the little game above is an example of Hoop Theory from Mystery.
Its probably on mASF and I believe there is a post on it.

Its also ok to jump in girl's hoops occasionally or if you're like me and you slip up, that's ok too.

IMO, its like this....

"How old are you?"
"33"
Girl turns around...thinks boring guy....

She'll ask the same question again later and see if the guy responds the same.

[Vector]

Hey Tribulus glad to see you're back.

Tonight a girl was asking my age (actually I sorta brought it up by asking her how old her friend was. My friends and I were debating how old we thought she was.)

I said, "You'll never guess. I'll give you six guesses!"
HB: 25?
Vector: Nope. One. [Counting on fingers]
HB: 22?
Vector: Nope. [Two fingers]
HB: 28?
Vector: Nope. That's three. [Three fingers]
HB: Well am I close?
Vector: 28 was the closest so far.
HB: 27?
Vector: Nope. [Four fingers]
HB: 30?
Vector: Nope. That's five. [Five fingers]
HB: 29?
Vector: Nope, sorry, you got close though, I'm 31. I just had a birthday last week. [Show her my ID to show I really was 31 and I really had a birthday]
HB: Wow, blah blah blah
Vector: Yeah, because i'm half asian and asians are always really ambiguous when it comes to age, you can't tell if they're 16 or 35 hahah..

With Cougars I use the don't ask, don't tell policy. I don't bring it up and most of the time they won't either, because they don't want to draw attention to it. If they ask, I'll answer (or make her guess) but I'll down-play it and change the subject, and I never ever ask her age.

Generally speaking, dodging a question once is funny ("what do you do? I'm a professional hopscotch player.") but avoiding a question a second time means you're hiding something and it's creepy. If you dodge it once and it doesn't come up again, you're in the clear, but if she asks again, you had better give a truthful answer and know how to frame it.

[El Fenix]

Never had an issue with the job thing, just the age issue. With the job I usually do tell them I'm a professional thumb wrestler these days, which ALWAYS results in an instant match. If you see a guy laughing his arse off and thumb wrestling in a bar, it's about a 50% chance it's me!
If she asks "what do you really do?" I go ahead and tell her, "sales and marketing for AT&T."
Not once have I had a negative response to that. In fact, I have had girls say that they thought I was in sales because I'm good at talking with people.

The age thing might have to do with the idea that chasing older women because their "easier," or a cool thing to do has kinda been in the spotlight recently.
I've tried the "guess" method, but as soon as I say my age, I get this look like "your joking right?" And I'm out.
I'm just not dealing with the issue correctly. Hey, an attractive, fun woman is a great thing, regardless if shes 21 or 35.
I'm gonna try Vector's idea or giving her several guesses next time the issue arises.