Jail Bait!

[Archaeopteryx]

Part 1 its illegiel to bring a minor across state lines

This is a common misconception and is incorrect. It is completely legal to met a 16 year old girl in Texas bring her back to a state that has 16 as the legal age of concent and have sex with her.

{Chapter 117, 18 U.S.C. 2423(a)} forbids transporting a minor (defined as under 18 ) in interstate or foreign commerce with the intent of engaging in criminal sexual acts in which a person can be charged.

Note that having sex with a 16 yr old in Arkansas is not illegal. Therefore this would not trigger the federal statute. My advice to anyone is to know the law, and keep everythign legal.

part 2 Fuck ya she is lol she looks my my first girl friend Tiffany

Lucky bastard.

[Sage]

This is a common misconception and is incorrect. It is completely legal to met a 16 year old girl in Texas bring her back to a state that has 16 as the legal age of concent and have sex with her.

{Chapter 117, 18 U.S.C. 2423(a)} forbids transporting a minor (defined as under 18 ) in interstate or foreign commerce with the intent of engaging in criminal sexual acts in which a person can be charged.

Note that having sex with a 16 yr old in Arkansas is not illegal. Therefore this would not trigger the federal statute. My advice to anyone is to know the law, and keep everythign legal.

Well I don't know about interstate, but I believe that it is the same as crossing an international border- if you take a 16 year old girl from Texas to mexico for the purpose of having sex with her you CAN be charged in the US because the idea is that it's illegal in Texas and you're taking her accross the border just to be able to do something that is illegal in Texas. Also, my understanding is that you may also be charged if you go to meet a 16yo girl who LIVES in Mexico for the purpose of having sex with her. Of course, it's really really unlikely that you would ever actually get charged with it.

Bottom line: isn't it just better to stick with girls who are unquestionably legal?

[Finch]

Taking a minor across state lines to have sex with her turns it into a federal crime.

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Resolution:

This thread is getting ridiculous. Laws can be interrupted many different ways and that's what keeps lawyers in business...LOL

If she is under 17, keep it in your pants until she is of age and then do what you gotta do.

[Archaeopteryx]

Well I don't know about interstate, but I believe that it is the same as crossing an international border- if you take a 16 year old girl from Texas to mexico for the purpose of having sex with her you CAN be charged in the US because the idea is that it's illegal in Texas and you're taking her accross the border just to be able to do something that is illegal in Texas. Also, my understanding is that you may also be charged if you go to meet a 16yo girl who LIVES in Mexico for the purpose of having sex with her.

The statute you are refering to only applies to persons under 16 years.

For the purposes of age of consent, the only provision applicable is {Chapter 109A, 18 U.S.C. 2243(a)}. 2243(a) refers to situations where such younger person is under the age of 16 years.

Bottom line: isn't it just better to stick with girls who are unquestionably legal?

Taking a 16 year old to a neighboring state (where 16 is legal) is unequivicablly legal. I am not suggesting anyone do this, but if you want to, it is *perfectly legal* to do so. Just don't take pictures...(seriously, because taking pictures would be illegal)

Taking a minor across state lines to have sex with her turns it into a federal crime.

This is absolutely incorrect.

{Chapter 117, 18 U.S.C. 2422(b)} forbids the use of the United States Postal Service or other interstate or foreign means of communication, such as telephone calls or use of the internet, to persuade or entice a minor (defined as under 18 throughout chapter) to be involved in a criminal sexual act. The act has to be illegal under state or federal law to be charged with a crime under 2422(b),

Laws can be interrupted many different ways and that's what keeps lawyers in business

What part of those laws are vague? The fact is laws have to be clear and unambiguious or they won't pass the vagueness doctrine and will be rulled unconstitutional. One of the key requirements is that the law clearly defines what conduct is forbiden.

[BluesCluesPUA]

Taking a minor across state lines without parental consent is felony kidnapping.

[phoenix_rising]

Whoa, if im correct, we are PUA's, right. What is all this talk about jail bait and statelines for? With the skill set hopefully we all have, no girl should matter enough to warrant bouncing to another state, hell, talk about a venue change. Any female under 17 should be viewed as a nonsexual entity. nuff said.

-Phoenix

[Scoundrel]

Whoa, if im correct, we are PUA's, right. What is all this talk about jail bait and statelines for? With the skill set hopefully we all have, no girl should matter enough to warrant bouncing to another state, hell, talk about a venue change. Any female under 17 should be viewed as a nonsexual entity. nuff said.

-Phoenix

I agree. Anyone that wants to bang tinnie boppers can keep it to themselves.

[NobodyUKnow]

In many states they make you register as a sex offender... for the rest of your life. Everywhere you live, people will look you up on the internet and shun you.

[Archaeopteryx]

Taking a minor across state lines without parental consent is felony kidnapping.

This is inaccurate. Here is the federal kidnapping statute should you wish to read it.

Any female under 17 should be viewed as a nonsexual entity.

Why should you dictate what people find sexually attractive? If you're claiming you don't view any 16 year old girls as sexual entities then you are lying to yourself. Think back to when we were running around on the plains of Africa or the caves of Europe, do you think it was unnatural for a 16 year old girl to engage in sexual activity with man that's 20?

Your objection here has no legal basis. I know that it's popular to view someone who is attracted to a girl under 17 or 18 as someone who doesn't have the skills required to get women of age (as if 16 yr olds are somehow easier!?) In any case, studies indicate that the vast majority of men are attracted to women under the age of 17.

If we meet a girl and there is mutual attraction, why then should we exclude them when they are completely legal (after a little manuvering)?

In many states they make you register as a sex offender... for the rest of your life. Everywhere you live, people will look you up on the internet and shun you.

Yes. The importance of staying off this list cannot be over-stressed. I would rather be convicted of murder than a sex-crime because that shit will haunt you for the rest of your life. Fortuantely, if you follow the law, you won't have to worry about such inconviencies.

I know a lot of people might not like my posts in this thread, but it would be far better for an 18 year old PUA dating a 16 year old, to drive a few miles to stay within the law rather than risk getting his life completely ruined by winding up on that list should he have a nasty break up & the girl decides she wants to screw his life over.

In any case, know the law, and don't try to get away with breaking it. [/url]