Last nights debacle

[Bunny]

i drove down to a different city to try out my new found knowledge for the first time since aquisition. i had bought some new threads and rehearsed a lil bit of game on the way there. a female wing of mine who doubles as a booty (she has a boyfriend and likes wanted to help me pick someone up) told me about a party and invited me to accompany her.
as soon as i arrive i start talking to some girls at a jukebox while waiting to make a selection myself. they were 5's at best but they still kinda ignored me. not much to talk about because they were looking at alanis morisette. ew.
i picked out a HB6 who was pretty much all the party had to offer but she had some junk in the trunk so she caught my attention fast. she was next to a pool table so the pickup went like this

Bunny: so are you the reigning champ around here?
HB: something like that, me and that guy are partners. *points to hillbilly: probably named earl or merl
Bunny: well you look like youve been workin out but im still not worried
HB: well i made all the balls go in the last game
Bunny: you dont stand a chance against me and my hippy friend
HB: well youre on mister.

she goes over and gets her partner away from his trough and i tell my female wing whats up. so first my female wing talks to the HB6 to find out some gritty details. (the hillbilly was just a dude she had met that night and my wing had dropped my age on this HB who by the way was 30.
Im pretty mature and most people think im around 25 but im "only 21"
which is what i hear alot.
its like the women i speak to use this as a crutch to carry conversation whenever they cant think of anything else to say. "yeah and youre just a baby" "youre only 21"
i shrug it off and hit the other side of the table with the HB6. i give her the C&U smile routine. she ate it up and started talking about how she didnt know that and she had a degree in Communications.
i also threw in a story about how me and my wing had met because she dated one of my friends and we got to know each other as good friends so the HB would know i was open.
Im pretty sure my problem was long gaps in the conversation. she didnt want to leave my side but there were alot of long gaps inbetween convo when i would usually just look like i was waiting for my turn to shoot.
End of the night rolls around and she leaves with the hillbilly.
i looked around and realized i was out of my element. I was the only cityslicker in the place. nothing but trucker hats and four days worth of stubble everywhere. i probably had the most teeth in the place.
i would occasionally grab the HB and move her a lil for my shot but i couldnt figure out a way to throw in anymore keno.
i was pretty relaxed the whole time so i didnt know what was up.
i seduced my female wing when we got to her house pretty easily. she said we could only cuddle and i took off my shirt >:) too easy.

anyone have any tips for filling in the gaps during convo? more stories? more smalltalk?

[rumsey]

It sounds like you have a lot of the same sticking points as myself. I often have a hard time carrying the conversation without gaps of silence. If I pay attention when this happens, its usually pretty clear that I'm lost in thought or just gazing off at a wall (or pool table). At any rate, I'm not present. I'd give you more advice but I'm having a hard time staying present myself. Another thing I noticed is how you framed it when she teased you about your age. This must happen to you fairly often because you say it seems like women bring it up as a crutch when they can't carry on the conversation or think of something to say. This might not be the case. This happens to me a lot too, only instead of "you're only 21!?" (I'm only 22 myself) I get weird compliments. For instance, maybe I'm playing a game of pool and having and trying my best to be present and chat a girl I'm playing with... now I'll be stuck in one of these weird gaps of silence that sound an awful lot like what you are describing where I'm in my head thinking "Well. I don't have a lot to say, I'll just stare at this pool table and watch whoever's shot it is." Then out of nowhere these girls will typically bring up something I've mentioned eariler about myself that shown through in a positive light, basically they'll bring up anything I've DHV'd about since I've been talking to them (Whether the DHV was concious or not). At first it seemed forced and weird for them to go back to some old topic we had already covered or go out of their way to try and make me look good, like they were opening me. "Blah blah, so you play guitar? That's really awesome! I've always wanted to play but it seems so hard." It just seems weird every time when I hear it. What I'm getting at is maybe they aren't using that statement as a crutch - maybe it's a sign you aren't being present. This is the vibe I get from them at a time like this - "What up with this guy? He seems nice enough and I was having a good time talking to him and now he's just sitting there silent... Didn't he say he liked to play guitar? Maybe I'll ask him about that... Wasn't it cool he was able to complete that Rubik's cube, maybe I'll bring that up... That shirt looks nice, maybe I'll ask about that to make conversation... Didn't he say he's only 21, maybe I can turn that in to a thread..." etc. So I've come to notice that when it seems like a girl is trying to hard for my conversation or seems like she's throwing things out there to try and carry it on as best she can - its usually because I'm not doing a good enough job giving her my full attention. Next time you notice that a girl is using the "You're only 21" to string along conversation, or she ressurects and old conversational thread after a period of silence, or if she uses a situational opener after you've already spent time in rapport and comfort... consider that she may have to try so hard only because we're not trying hard enough.


I need to get out of my head, but I've been living there most of my life.

[Bunny]

im going out to a college party this weekend in raleigh, NC
i had a good idea for an opener. somethin like this:
ill paint two of my nails a color and start out by opening a set with:
"excuse me, you think this color works for me?"
maybe a few jokes about my sexual preference and giving a time constraint about getting back to my domestic partner *point to wingman*
ill end the discussion about it with how i let my niece paint em because shes learning how blah blah blah.
the story about my niece giving me her little froggy watch melted a few hearts when i dropped it after a few females made fun of me wearing it.
even more when one tried to take it off me when she was undressing me. I paused and said "i told you im wearing it forever" she later told me she liked it ^_^ too bad ill never see her again.

[zine]

Im pretty sure my problem was long gaps in the conversation. she didnt want to leave my side but there were alot of long gaps inbetween convo when i would usually just look like i was waiting for my turn to shoot.

even masters have gaps in the conversation. Use them to your advantage, these gaps are an amazing time to just look into her eyes and build sexual tension. Many times females will naturally have these gaps in the conversation. Such as after a shit test and you know you passed it, but then there's a long silence. What do you do here?

Escalate.
She is giving you a chance to escalate, if you don't she will think less of you.

[magnum]

the conversation never ends. while alfa you dont have to be constantly talking your comfortable with gaps and it will be sensed. it shows confidence. if you make them akward however they will and that will be picked up on. relaxing will improve your game.