FR: Tribulus Goes Direct

[Tribulus1000]

Thanks APB. I'm glad someone who has an idea of what Direct is about could comment on this FR.

And really no comments were needed.
Its a field report not a discussion of how things 'should have gone'.

Unfortunately, I have had some issues come up in my job and my health that will prevent me from going out.

It is game over for me.

So I wish you all the best of luck on your training and keep plugging away at it.
I am going out tonight, Saturday, Sept 1, 2007. After that, I will be out of the community.

Tribulus out

[Twitchy]

Out with a dramatic flourish....

I sincerely hope you get your health issues worked out. Best of luck to you Trib!

[Asian Playboy]

Hey gotta do what you gotta do. Everybody needs a break from the Community every now and again to get their life back in alignment after concentrating so heavily like you have.

Hit me up tonight. We'll make it a Tribulus' going away bash!

[Kraven]

Good Luck Tribulus, get back in the game soon buddy

[MagicBalls]

Yeah, sometimes it's good to regroup and reflect on what you've learned. Then you're right back out there giving those big-breasted blond HB10's everything you've got where they least expect it.

Best of luck to you in all the areas of your life.

I myself am retiring from the community. It's been a long road, but you all have been by my side all along, through thick and thin, until I made it to the top. From AFC nerdy nerd to slick and sly Casanova, my black belt in the Venusian Arts has been earned through a lot of blood, sweat and tears, but actually mostly just a lot of sweat. The world is now my tool, as are all the horny HB10's in it. But the time has come to put up my belt and make room for the newbies. As they say, make it 'till you fake it. New book coming out soon.

[Archaeopteryx]

Hey bro, I admire your willingness to try new things--that's an important part of being a PUA--finding out what works for you. However, I feel I must comment as I see you might be on a road to going back to AFC.

DISCLAIMER: I just looked my comments over and they're a bit harsh, but I think of this as tough love. Of course these are just my opinions, so feel free to take it or leave it. Either way, I sincerely hope whatever path you stay on leads you to success with women.

Hey guys,

This is new for me. I spent almost 2 years doing MM/RSD or some variant of Indirect. I've sarged with some of the biggest names out there but it never really clicked for me.

I studied and studied Mystery Method and I worked constantly on it.

If it's not working for you then you need to do some sets in front of other PUAs and have them tell you what you're doing wrong. MM works...all these techniques work, you're just doing something wrong. Based on your posts, I think you might be showing too much interest. Find out what it is, and tweak it, and you'll do much better

Thus I come full circle. Back to Direct Method and my adventure tonight. So tonight I let her rip. A bar in Dallas on a Wed night was ground zero for my Direct Method.

Here's a breakdown.

1. I tell the girl at the door how she looks beautiful and how I like her shirt. She's a little rotund. This is ok because I'm getting warmed up to do more of this.
She warms up to me but there are others in line so I keep moving.

2. I open a bartended with "You look beautiful and I'd like to get to know you." ala Ranko. She lights up and loves it. But she's preoccupied. I do like this girl. Her personality is bubbly and she bounces around and is very cute. I wonder if she'd like to bounce on me!!
She has a boyfriend. This does not bother me

I am here to calibrate and see the responses. I want to see how far I can take it.

Later I talk to her about singing. I ask "Can you sing?" which is a kind of qualification and then I ask what her kareoke song is.
She says she will be singing on saturday for kareoke there at the same bar. This sounds like an invitation to get to know her better if I've ever heard one.

3. I open a girl I knew previously from a few weeks ago using "Who sings this?" (Low Investment Opener) ala MM.
She is older(50) but she looks good. I tell her how she is beautiful. And I tell her friend who is wearing a cowboy hat the same.

The both smile but the girl I opened earlier doesn't take the compliment well.

I wonder if this is a sympton of someone having low self-esteem. Truely all girls are beautiful. Well most of them are in some way.

4. I open a two set with an indirect style opener but then flip quickly into Direct.
This is interesting.
I say "Would you pay $200 for a pair of jeans?" (Indirect) then I go into a direct compliment "you look beautiful tonight."

This is working well.

Bro, this is not going well. So far you've gotten blown out by a fat chick, an old lady, and triggered the kung-fu "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND!!" defense. No k-closes, no #-closes, nothing.

I don't usually get this far with MM for some reason.

If you open you've made it futher with MM then with this "method" because you're in conversation with her without having showed too much interest.

5. The girl from the previous set tells me to open her friends so I do and I use a little jealousy "Are you talking girl talk about her?"
And then I go into a compliment. And this time I actually do some speed seduction pattern language.

"I'm sure you can't SEE US TOGETHER...... COMING........ CLOSER AND FEELING.....SO GOOD."

This really lights up her world.

But she's a little bit chubby and has low self esteem. She tells me that her friend is hot, that she's fat and how later I would say "that' not how you looked at the bar" all in a few sentences.
What's going on? Are all these girls low self esteem tonight???

6. A waitress comes by and asks me and my friend if we are ok? So I say yes and I say "You look pretty tonight." Which makes her totally light up.
This girl is an 8 or 8.5 easy. She is tall, blonde and stunningly hot.

So you got blown out by another fat chick and a waitress (a girl who works for tips) was polite to you?

And all that with one quick compliment.

Of Course if you compliment a girl she's going to enjoy the ego boost! But we're not in a community of guys trying to figure out how to boost girl's egos. We're trying to get laid, and the method you're presuering is not going to help you achieve that goal. I know that's harsh, but it's true. You sound like you're going back to AFCdom here.

My S.S. friend is really impressed. I tell him the key to this is not being a hot and horny bastard but to be truely romantic and complimentary and caring about her as a man should.

What is romantic about telling fat chicks and an old lady that there they're beautiful, or hitting on waitresses with lines she's heard from a dozen guys that day? Honestly, she was probably smiling because she knew she was going to get a good tip.

Later I see her and I give her a kiss on the cheek. She has wonderful skin and I'd like to feel it and caress it so I tell her.
She says she has a boyfriend but I ask for the #. I can't believe I don't get it.

Shocking. How can you be in the community 2 years and expect stuff like this to work unless you have some massive social proof/preselection?

7. I see a brunette girl standing alone. I know these cute girls are never alone but I go for it.
Approach straight on...

"You look beautiful... and.... I'd ...like ..to... get... to... know you"

She says thanks. I quickly follow that up with "are you single?" which seems to be a good question to ask.
I show interest, I need to know what the relationship status is.

She says her boyfriend is paying and she's waiting for him. I say "Oh ok. My timing could not be better...nice meeting you." Eject.

Do you see a pattern emerging here?

It was a good night.

If you are like me and show interest in some way, all the time, because you actually love girls you show interest, then showing interest works because its congruent with how you are on the inside.

It certainly is congruant with someone who is desperate. Women can sense this desperation and it turns them off.

Thanks APB. I'm glad someone who has an idea of what Direct is about could comment on this FR.

Do you actually think, Vector, Welsh Dragon, Twitchy, and the other guys that tried to tell you it was a bad idea to run around telling every girl she's beautiful, doesn't have a clue what direct game is?

An attractive girl has heard it before and a unattractive girl won't believe you. It's funny how he's so happy he made a girl smile. Is that the goal here? To smile close a girl?

And really no comments were needed.
Its a field report not a discussion of how things 'should have gone'.

You're right, they went exactly as they should have gone, you didn't get laid, you didn't k-close or even #-close. This isn't because of you, I'm sure you're a great guy, but anyone would have trouble using this "method"

[JohnnyBravo]

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Its European-style Direct Method.

WTF? The last time I checked we were still in Texas.

[Rhody]

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Its European-style Direct Method.

WTF? The last time I checked we were still in Texas.

What does that have to do with anything? Mystery is from Canada. Does that mean Canadian method won't work on Texas girls?

[Twitchy]

Hey all, let's please quit picking apart this field report.

Trib is a good guy. He is obviously dealing with some stuff in his life and has left the community - at least for the time being.

His method is not how some of us would do it. So be it. Get out there and sarge and figure out what works best for you.

[dubya]

Later I see her and I give her a kiss on the cheek. She has wonderful skin and I'd like to feel it and caress it so I tell her.
She says she has a boyfriend but I ask for the #. I can't believe I don't get it.

I just found this shit. Honestly its a litle fucking creepy.
I'm getting pretty decent at number closing and have not once ASKED the girl for the number. But lets put that aside for a moment. This girl was already creeped out by you and then you walk up and kiss her cheek (which she probably let you do because she didn't want to embarase the hell you) and then you start telling her she has wonderful skin and you want to caress it??? WTF? No... no wonder she 1) tells you she has a boyfriend and 2) still doesn't give you her number once you try to push her into it.

If you're going to compliment a girl be genuine about it. Compliment her on something spicific that she has actually earned a compliment for. Don't dispence compliments like a dancing monkey seeking aproval. Give them to girls who have earned them from you by qualifing themselves to you.