Single Mom gaming..??? Any tips?

[Clueless1]

I'm pretty much useless out in the field, but i do have some moments...not many.

But i # closed a cute girl and through the circle of friends, i find out she has a kid.

Is there any pitfalls, traps or things i should know or not do? Last thing i need for her to see me as a father figure for her kid. And financially support them...Hell I can barely support myself!!!

[Finesse]

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[JohnnyBravo]

I'm pretty much useless out in the field, but i do have some moments...not many.

But i # closed a cute girl and through the circle of friends, i find out she has a kid.

Is there any pitfalls, traps or things i should know or not do? Last thing i need for her to see me as a father figure for her kid. And financially support them...Hell I can barely support myself!!!

Dude,

I recommend you take a listen to Tom Leykis. 105.3 from approximately 7:15 Pm to 10:00 PM. Especially Thursday nights. He's on every night, but teaches "class" on Thursdays. You might also ask your question on the below website. I guarantee you'll get many opinions!

http://www.leykisonline.com/leykis/ - post your question at this one. This is where I first read about Style's book "The Game".

also

http://www.blowmeuptom.com

Pay attention to The Rules

The short answer to your question....Just say no.

[MetroR6]

Tom Leykes is right stay away from single moms!! There are plenty of girls with out kids, why even mess with that BS? I had a good friend who is a single mom. She was gorgeous but had a kid! That is why is is only a good friend. Why should you have to deal with another mans mistake? Its harsh but true.

[Scoundrel]

I agree with Jonny Bravo. Leykes is what you need. I think Leykes is flat wrong about a lot of things, but he's spot on about single moms.

[MagicBalls]

Going after a mom by definition makes you Beta. An Alpha male fucked her while he was fucking other females, which reduced the amount of young, healthy, horny, supple, curvaceous, sexy females that you could fuck. You come in and take care of the Alpha's offspring once he's had his fill. How does that make you feel?

[Rhody]

Going after a mom by definition makes you Beta. An Alpha male fucked her while he was fucking other females, which reduced the amount of young, healthy, horny, supple, curvaceous, sexy females that you could fuck. You come in and take care of the Alpha's offspring once he's had his fill. How does that make you feel?

Who said anything about taking care of offspring?

Fucking a woman who has already been fucked is not beta, even if a previous sexual encounter left her pregnant. Just because a woman had a kid, that doesn't mean she will only sleep with beta males.

[NobodyUKnow]

Yea, I don't know what this Leykes dude says about single moms, but honestly I don't give a shit. If your goal is marriage, there might be some points in the whole "taking care of another man's kids" line, but if you're just looking to get laid, how does it matter at all?

Pussy is pussy is pussy... you might need to manage a mom differently than a non-mom, but that's just details. Logistics might be different; schedules might be different. At least you know the mom puts out =).

IMO any claimed Alpha/beta differences is bullshit also. You mean to claim that some chick who watches you go home with a mom (how would she know?) is going to consider you beta, so you can't bang her next week? Where does alpha/beta come in AT ALL?? By following this train of logic, you may as well also claim that anytime you don't fuck a virgin, you're being beta, since "some other alpha got there first".

Sorry Magic, but I'm calling bullshit on that. Bullshit, bullshit, buuuulllllllshit.

Anyway, I'm a father, and I love kids. At my age, most women I'm interested in dating will generally have them too. My lower limit for dating is 25, and even then chicks that young usually bore and/or irritate the hell out of me. My point is, I don't give a shit if she has kids or not, other than if she's got stretchmarks from hell.

[Vector]

Going after moms does not make you beta any more than going after non-virgins. Unless she tries to force you into a provider role and you accept it, which you have to be very weak for that to happen. There are a lot of weak guys out there but you're not one of them.

Some moms might be seeking support but they are also looking to get laid just like everyone else in the world. And they are probably getting it less due to their constraints. As for finding a replacement dad for their kids, they will generally be pretty selective, and will want to feel you out thoroughly, seeing how you interact with kids before they even consider you for that. You should be safe as long as you stay away from children when you're with her, not just hers but other children too.

As long as you clearly establish that you are not interested in getting serious, you should be fine.

Sometimes they are single moms through no fault of their own, but other times they are single moms because they make poor choices, so watch out for that.

Overall they aren't bad.

[Kraven]

What's up Clueless,

Avoid Leykis... cause he's just plain weird... he recommends putting tabasco sauce in your used condoms after sex, because she might try to save the semen inside and impregnate herself. Riiight...

But his advice (and that of some other pick up gurus) on this is basically correct - and particularly for guys with true PUA skills - we can meet enough girls with no kids in field, that it doesn't make much sense to bother much with those who do

Its up to the guy, if you like her you can go for it, and you will have to frame the relationship. Don't bring up the kid yourself, and if she does then let her know you're not interested in being daddy. If its an issue though, don't concern yourself with her much and just meet other girls