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[Kraven]

Whats up PUAs,

I'd like to start a thread about naturals that we have personally witnessed

I know that way back in all our AFC pasts, we've witnessed a few. Personally, I had some Latino buddies back in teens who were (allegedly) bedding hotties 10 years older. And later, a former supervisor used to demonstrate at a bar near where we worked, positively DEVASTATING dominant kino and BL techniques - skills he'd honed pulling 3-4 German girls every Saturday night from Berlin discos, back when he was stationed there. Girls he wanted were mesmerized in minutes

A significant number of top level PUAs developed their techniques and styles by modelling naturals (Brad P., Mystery, etc)

A small number of newer PUAs I've met do the same thing - they get into the game and then rather than study PDFs or audio course, they just go to bars and observe the naturals at work to get a feel for the game. Sometimes they just introduce themselves, to get to know them to hang out and leech their game

I don't think this is a bad idea, but naturals seem to be hit or miss - as far as witnessing truly excellent ones, and as far as their methods go also

Some guys I've seen called naturals seem to be... ah... not so effective...

So I'll begin by sharing a couple of recent events involving naturals met through my newbie un-natural PUA buddies and wings:

- Meet up with a lair guy and a guy he claims is really cool natural. He starts talking about our waitress and says she's probably got a BF, based on her attitude(?). Next time she's over, I open her, get her laughing and admit shes single (with a faraway look in her eyes) and I tell her our friend (the "natural") was worried she had a BF

-Hilarious incident the other night with a different lair guy introducing me to his natural buddy (who was actually pretty cool, alpha and would be fun to hang with). He gets k-close from a hostess that he has not gamed before at a restaurant he frequents, calls another one a slut (but she concedes its true...). We hit some nearby places... at a bar he gets a 3 set of (probably underage) girls upset with him for pointing out that they're probably underage, he's kicked out (by a bar employee who's obviously siding with the girls because they know each other)

At another venue, the evening ends with him LICKING a girls legs (they were casual aquaintances) as she has them propped up on a barstool... she starts to freak out and screams for him to get away, and then spits on him saying "You did it to me!... That was NOT cool"... everything starts to melt down, and I eject the scene barely able to stand due to laughing... I guess he was in, um, A3? S1?.

Basically though this guy had tight social circle/proof game, could go to all these venues and was already down with all the staff - so he could chat with/game anyone new at the venue accordingly (basic foundation MM/PUA stuff)

I guess mainly naturals suffer from having to rely on their intuition and previous experiences, whereas un-nats have flowcharts prepared for scenarios they haven't even been in yet

So whos got some good and bad natural stories

[Scoundrel]

I have a friend that does the crazest things and gets laid all the time! I once saw him KNOCK A GIRL DOWN in a bar and just keep walking! She came over to him PISSED and all he said was "sorry, I didn't see you." A few hours later she was giving him a BJ in his car.

Back in the 80s he and I went to see the Cars. He set his sites on a girl working consessin and she took him to some back stairs where he went full monty with her.

Another time he and I were shopping for clothes. When I came out of the dressing room he was chatting up the salesgirl and as they were talking I saw her slipping off her engagement ring!

[PersianPrince]

One of my friends hooks up with a lot of girls, but he goes for quantity. One day he'll hook up with a really hot girl, then the next he's hooking up with a busted one.

He's just really loud and he is never worried about getting embarrassed. The other day we were at a party and we both saw our good friend Sarah. Sarah brought her friend from out of town and she hadn't introduced her to us yet, so my natural friend yelled out so everyone could hear, "HEY SARAH, WHO'S YOUR HOT FRIEND?"

He doesn't have the best skills, but he is aggressive and has no shame and girls are attracted to him because of that.

[H_Raja]

Thundercat wrote about this. The younger a guy loses his virginity the more natural he is around girls and the more he keeps getting laid. A natural friend of mine who's been with 70+ girls lost his virginity when he was 14.