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Postby sparks » Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:33 pm

A lot of guys idolize a man who's at the suicide clinic every six months. :D There is a reason he's so fucked up...

And taking personal action...well it depends where you're coming from. I definitely agree that by taking personal action you get pussy, but pussy is besides the point. Pussy is a side effect.
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Postby H_Raja » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:07 pm

I believe Juggler summed up the alpha male in the simplest of terms...not being approval seeking. Simple but extremely hard to internalize. Extremely hard...
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Postby Scoundrel » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:21 am

Tribulus1000 wrote:Do you guys see what we do as faking it?

I'm curious. Because I see it as training.

Once I got some of the routines down and the ideas behind them, it kinda became a part of me.

Like a fellow PUA said...

A girl said she liked his hat and he said "No you don't. You're just attracted to me." Which is a Mystery line.

And it works.

Why?

Cause its true.

That's it. Application in action.

Did he fall down at her feet and worship? Fuck no.
Did he wonder in his head "does she really like me?". No.
Did he tell her to fuck off? No.
Did he tell her she was a faker and a weirdo? No.

He did just exactly what he needed to do in the right moment. And he got a kiss close.

Tony Robbins says Personal Power in its definition is....
The Ability To Take Action.

That is it. And that's all you need.


This is a good way to look at it. But, there are many men (I'm one of them) that have to learn to fake not caring about an interaction with a young, attractive woman. I want her to like me, I want to fuck her, but if I let on too soon she won't.
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Postby MagicBalls » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:27 am

sparks wrote:A lot of guys idolize a man who's at the suicide clinic every six months. :D There is a reason he's so fucked up...


There's a fine line between being crazy and being a genius. There are many historical examples to prove my point. Mystery is in essence a sociologist with a qualitative approach, and the product of his work stands on its own, aside from whatever medical problems he may have, which may be genetic in nature.
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Postby Westfall » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:57 am

H_Raja wrote:I believe Juggler summed up the alpha male in the simplest of terms...not being approval seeking. Simple but extremely hard to internalize. Extremely hard...


Very true.
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Postby sparks » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:59 am

MagicBalls wrote:There's a fine line between being crazy and being a genius. There are many historical examples to prove my point. Mystery is in essence a sociologist with a qualitative approach, and the product of his work stands on its own, aside from whatever medical problems he may have, which may be genetic in nature.


He's a master at manipulating social dynamics. There's no doubt about that. But when your life goal is to be able to pick-up every chick you talk to, then you're bound to be an insecure loser. He has based his sense of self on an illusion, a mirage.
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Postby Scoundrel » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:16 pm

So what? He's making a lot of money with it and getting laid to boot. Where do I sign up to have his insecurities?
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Postby MagicBalls » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:29 pm

sparks wrote:
MagicBalls wrote:There's a fine line between being crazy and being a genius. There are many historical examples to prove my point. Mystery is in essence a sociologist with a qualitative approach, and the product of his work stands on its own, aside from whatever medical problems he may have, which may be genetic in nature.


He's a master at manipulating social dynamics. There's no doubt about that. But when your life goal is to be able to pick-up every chick you talk to, then you're bound to be an insecure loser. He has based his sense of self on an illusion, a mirage.


Hmm... not sure it's relevant since we're not here to discuss the man but his methods... but... you don't really know what his life goal is, and whether it's a worthwhile pursuit for him or not. He's a teacher and he's an entertainer. He has taught many people how to be better with women. For many, increasing their experience with women will lead to greater happiness, even if they choose to settle down with one -- by this point their skills will be such that they will have found a partner that they wouldn't have otherwise. And soon he's going to be entertaining a wider audience with his new VH1 show. Many pursue these two areas and don't get called "losers" because of it.
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Postby NobodyUKnow » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:08 pm

True self-esteem is something we all possess. It is our default state and it is encoded into our DNA. What happens is that we lose it when we search outside of ourselves. The more we search, the more lost we get. Genuine self-esteem comes from being intinsically validated, but since we are usually lost to begin with, we must first transced being externally validated. Once we transcend, it is easy to see all fo the walls people put up.

People with high self esteem are aloof because they don't need, but people with low self esteem are aloof because they are scared and trying to fake like they don't care.


This is money. For more on this, Eckhard Tolle has a great book called "The Power of Now", which talks about how to separate your ego from your mind.
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Postby Vector » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:34 pm

sparks wrote:when your life goal is to be able to pick-up every chick you talk to, then you're bound to be an insecure loser.

You could make the same accusation about having any skill, whether it's music, sports, business, or whatever. To say that wanting a high skill level in something implies deep insecurity is simply ridiculous.

However I will admit, it's a good excuse for mediocrity. Convince yourself and others that high achievement is actually a curse, not a blessing.
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