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Postby sparks » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:11 pm

Scoundrel wrote:Prehaps, but it's hard to tell the differance from the outside.


The higher your self-esteem, the easier is is to tell the difference. The opposite is also the case.
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Postby Scoundrel » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:02 am

sparks wrote:The higher your self-esteem, the easier is is to tell the difference. The opposite is also the case.


Alright, be specific, how can you tell?
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Postby sparks » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:29 pm

True self-esteem is something we all possess. It is our default state and it is encoded into our DNA. What happens is that we lose it when we search outside of ourselves. The more we search, the more lost we get. Genuine self-esteem comes from being intinsically validated, but since we are usually lost to begin with, we must first transced being externally validated. Once we transcend, it is easy to see all fo the walls people put up.

People with high self esteem are aloof because they don't need, but people with low self esteem are aloof because they are scared and trying to fake like they don't care.
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Postby TheAwakened » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:35 pm

The people with low self-esteem are the ones who will tell you that they "Don't give a fuck." If you really don't give a fuck, why do you feel the need to inform me?
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Postby Tribulus1000 » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:39 pm

sparks wrote:Definitely. I'm not saying that what he wrote about is useless or wrong. I just think it's low level stuff, and I don't like the place he's coming from.


Low level?

At a behavioral level, this is hard. Its not low level at all. If you can master being unreactive, my hat is off to you.
Its one of the most fundamental things. And I still struggle with it.

When he says "not qualifying yourself" its a concept.

You can glaze over it but if you've been out in the field for a time, you see guys who just have this down.
You want a good example, Vector there has this down very well. He's very unreactive and calm in a set.

So props Vector.

The not qualifying yourself thing is very important.

I've been out and AFC guys will talk to me and say shit like "I have a cool car and a cool job". That's extreme case...but you get the point.

And I'm thinking "why is this dude telling me this crap for?"

You get the idea.
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Postby sparks » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:26 pm

The thing is, that if you focus on behavior and social dynamics, you are missing the point completely. Being congruently unreactive CAN'T come from focusing on behavior patters. Not qualifying yourself congruently CAN'T come from behavior patterns either. I say congruently, because you can sure as hell trick everyone that you're unreactive and that you don't qualify yourself. You might be able to trick yourself as well, but it's hypocrisy.
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Postby Scoundrel » Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:59 am

sparks wrote:The thing is, that if you focus on behavior and social dynamics, you are missing the point completely. Being congruently unreactive CAN'T come from focusing on behavior patters. Not qualifying yourself congruently CAN'T come from behavior patterns either. I say congruently, because you can sure as hell trick everyone that you're unreactive and that you don't qualify yourself. You might be able to trick yourself as well, but it's hypocrisy.


Hypocrisy? :roll: Who cares as long as your getting laid?
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Postby sparks » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:41 am

Scoundrel,

I'm with you man, and that's cool, but to me this is about self-respect and authenticity. As men this is where our true value is at.

I'm not about being fake to get some club bloopsie to open her legs for me.
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Postby Scoundrel » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:46 am

Sure, but many of us have fake until we make it.
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Postby Tribulus1000 » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:19 am

Do you guys see what we do as faking it?

I'm curious. Because I see it as training.

Once I got some of the routines down and the ideas behind them, it kinda became a part of me.

Like a fellow PUA said...

A girl said she liked his hat and he said "No you don't. You're just attracted to me." Which is a Mystery line.

And it works.

Why?

Cause its true.

That's it. Application in action.

Did he fall down at her feet and worship? Fuck no.
Did he wonder in his head "does she really like me?". No.
Did he tell her to fuck off? No.
Did he tell her she was a faker and a weirdo? No.

He did just exactly what he needed to do in the right moment. And he got a kiss close.

Tony Robbins says Personal Power in its definition is....
The Ability To Take Action.

That is it. And that's all you need.
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