ALPHA-MALE CHARACTERISTICS

[Mojo]

though you guys might enjoy this article by Tyler Durden, the king of Alpha'ing. This is one of his areas of experitise.



ALPHA-MALE CHARACTERISTICS:
by TD of RealSocialDynamics

1) NEVER QUALIFYING THEMSELVES.

“Qualify” meaning that they never brag or even REMOTELY explain things… they don’t say “I’m tired right now”, or “I’m really hung over”, or “My good clothes are at home”, or “I used to be able to lift that weight, but I haven’t been in the gym for a while.”, or “I could do that, but I’m having a bad day.” Similarly, they don’t talk excessively about all the chicks they’ve laid, or all their girlfriends, or all their success. WHY? Because they don’t even GIVE A FUCK enough about you to even tell you about it. They ASSUME that you’ll think that they’re the shit, because they ARE. TALKING ALOT / TOO MUCH IS VERY OFTEN INTERPRETED AS QUALIFYING YOURSELF.

2) NOT LOOKING AROUND.

Think CLINT EASTWOOD. He hears a big bang or loud noise, and he SLOWLY turns to look at it. He doesn’t let ANYBODY disturb him. He’s in his own reality. I can remember walking into a class late one day, and not looking at the teacher WHATSOEVER. The girls started giggling, as I looked totally unconcerned at what anyone thought, and they started hitting on me after class. I mean I can hardly convey this over the net.. The reaction was RIDICULOUS.

3) TALK SLOW.

Think to when you are chatting some authority figure, or somebody who you admire. If you’re like me, you’ll increase your speech DRAMATICALLY. It’s very obvious, and I’ve seen guys who are alpha start talking abnormally fast when confronted with guys who are MORE alpha. Talking fast is a way of QUALIFYING yourself to someone, because you are WORRIED that they’ll stop listening to you and that you won’t get out what you have to say.

4) BEING THE ANCHOR OF THE CONVERSATION.

Notice that when an obviously alpha guy is present, everyone faces their body-language towards him. If you crack a joke, people wait for the alpha-male to laugh as a sort of “approval” of the joke. He laughs, and then everyone follows. Also, an alpha-male can crack a DUMB joke, but notice that everyone laughs. It’s a laugh of SUBMISSION in many ways, as when I’m sarging girls they always giggle non-stop.. (alot of PUAs I’ve met will say “dude, you make girls giggle like nobody else.. this is ridiculous”.. This is only something that I learned as I practiced ASF stuff, and it never used to happen. Notice that chicks LAUGH HYSTERICALLY when you call them “geeks / dorks / power-puff-girls”.. Or they laugh when you say that if they’re not rich you’ll break up with them.

Guys, this stuff is NOT FUNNY. But they laugh like its the funniest thing they’ve ever heard. Why? IMO, its because its a laugh of submission. These C&F remarks set you as ALPHA, and they giggle to submit. This is called going “girly-girl”, and the ugly chicks always bash the hotties for giggling at the captain of the football team’s lame jokes.. “see how she laughs at all his dumb jokes.. its so pathetic!” (even though they WISH that THEY were the ones who the cool-guy would be chatting up)..

4b) USURPING THE GLORY.

Alphas seem to take ANYTHING that challenges their alpha status in the room and USURP it for themselves. This is a variation of being the ANCHOR of the conversation. Basically, if you’re not the alpha, and you say something cool, the alpha-male might do something like “YEAH THAT IS THE SHIT… YOU COULD EVEN DO X,Y,Z….” Somehow, YOUR cool idea has become THEIR cool idea, and they’ve usurped the credit for your idea.

5) NEVER BEING IMPRESSED.

There’s this one dude, who whenever I hang out at his house (university frathouse type deal, with lots of guys living there), there will always be this little “alpha-subtext” deal going on.
Like, I’ll be showing the dudes there something, and I’ll have ALL the attention. But will HE come over and act impressed? NOPE. He’ll just go do his own thing, or just sit there eating his ravioli, unimpressed with me, in his own reality. The ONLY time he’ll pay attention to what I’m doing is if its a case like 4b, where he’ll usurp it for himself. Otherwise, he’s NEVER interested.

6) ONLY HAVING RAPPORT WITH BETAS, EXCEPT FOR A FEW EXCEPTIONS.

I’ve noticed that I can’t get along with alpha-males as well as I used to be able to. It’s like a conflict in the room, where the hierarchical status is totally out of order. Alphas will often hate each other, except that when they DO make friends, they are BEST FRIENDS. Or, they can coexist, but have this sort of weird way of talking. Like they’ll say things to eachother in ways that don’t qualify themselves, so its sort of like a weird broken conversation. I dunno how to describe this, but I’m sure you’ve all seen it. Anyway, they get along with everyone, since everyone is on their knob. But as soon as someone who tries to “take over” the alpha status comes along, he’s ridiculed for whatever reason they see fit.

7) ANSWERING QUESTIONS WITH DEGRADING GIBBERISH.

I’ve noticed that alphas will also have tendencies to take any question that you may have posed in attempt to get rapport with them, and answer it with some stupid non-sensical bullshit.
This goes back to why I say “don’t ask girls questions.. just make statements until they try to get rapport with YOU.. ‘what’s your name’, etc etc” Say that you come across an alpha-male, and you want to try to get rapport with him. Maybe you’ll ask him some basic questions or something. But he’ll answer with stupid shit like “guess”, or “I work at taco bell.. I’m the employee of the month”.. SOUND FAMILIAR? Also, they have a tendency to take what you asked and TWIST it around to ridicule you.

ALPHA-MALES DON’T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU.

Have you ever been onto a campus where there are cliques everywhere. Go look at the clique of rich jewish kids. (many of my closest friends are in these, so no stupid racist bullshit comments) They don’t give a fuck about you. You can be the centre of attention, life of the party, whatever.. It doesn’t matter, they’re in their corner with a few hotties, minding their own business, and they’re NOT gonna come out to see what cool shit is going on with you. Now you’d THINK that this would make them BETA, but there’s just something ABOUT them that makes it seem cool. Their disinterest puts them up above you, and if they DO come over, they come over like you’re their “CLOWN” whose purpose is to ENTERTAIN THEM. It’s all about THEM, not YOU. Again, “USURPING THE GLORY”.

9) ALPHA-MALES GET MORE CREDIT FOR MINOR ACTS OF KINDNESS THAN BETAS DO.

When I was in NYC with Papa and Mystery, we stayed at the house of this guy named “Garvellous” (NYC Lair top guy). He was a really cool guy, and he’d been laid around 40 times in college before he’d even FOUND ASF. He’d been in a frat, and he told me about something that the frathouse would intentionally do to new pledges when they’d apply. According to Garvellous, they were told to appear UNAPPROACHABLE and CLIQUISH initially. THEN, they were to be REALLY DOWN TO EARTH. What he explained was that if you APPEAR to be cliquish and unapproachable, that when you turned out to be actually down to earth, people would say “this guy is the NICEST/COOLEST guy..” As opposed to a librarian or a geek being nice, which NOBODY appreciates because they interpret it as COMPENSATING for short-comings. Just think: Imagine if you were to bump into Jay-Z or Dr. Dre or Michael Jordan, and they had a big entourage. The celebrity in question comes up to you and says “what’s up.. having a good time dude? cool.. yeah this place is pretty busy you know, and it can be kinda intimidating.. but you know, I just try to have a good time.. anyway, have a good night man..”

You’d be like HOLY SHIT THAT GUY IS THE COOLEST/NICEST GUY I’VE EVER MET… You’d tell EVERYBODY about how cool and down to earth the celebrity is, and you’d be really appreciative and impressed.

Now take the SAME REMARK from a geek or whatever, and you wouldn’t give it a second thought… Whatever, its just some geek. In clubs, the “unapproachable” guys are the dudes who wear sunglasses into the club, and have super-fly clothes and a corner with hot girls. Notice that if one of THOSE guys approaches your set in a club, you will NEVER snub him. The two-man cock-farm of generically dressed guys on the other hand, its a different story.

10) ULTIMATE COMFORT IN OWN SKIN.

Here is one that I find really funny. Look at rapport 50-Cent, or any stereotypical rock star. Now your average woman will have all of these “ideals” that guys should have, but notice that these go out the window for guys like 50-Cent. 50-Cent raps about how he’s going to kill and shoot people.. Fuck hoes, etc etc..

NOBODY questions this. He is 50-Cent, he’s from the streets, and THAT-IS-WHO-HE-IS. NOBODY QUESTIONS IT. Similarly, a rock star pumps massive drugs and fucks groupies all day long. He’s a REBEL.. a BADBOY.. a SEX SYMBOL.. (notice the correlation, and how projecting rebel / bad-boy can get you laid, even though there is no LOGICAL reason for that being the case).. Even a spiritual guy who talks about inner-peace and non-violence and all that stuff will usually say “well, he’s a superstar” when they’re asked what they think about these types of guys.. (there are exceptions of course, and the dudes with more zeal will call out anybody). Another example is like COLLEGE ALPHA MALES who wear dumb shit like TOGAS and marker up their faces with magic marker and shit like that. Notice that everyone thinks that its COOL, just because the “cool kids” (alphas) are doing it. NOBODY questions it.

[Scoundrel]

This is a good post. I agree with most of it. For some reason, Reading it I started to think of Bill Clenton. But, he's about as alpha as they come. The guy can REALLY work a room.

[sparks]

I get a bad vibe from this post, because I feel that it pressuposes that there is a disconnect between people. I get a big "us vs. them" vibe from it.

[Vector]

I get a bad vibe from this post, because I feel that it pressuposes that there is a disconnect between people. I get a big "us vs. them" vibe from it.

I don't know why, but for some reason I disagree with almost everything you say. It's interesting to hear a different opinion. Can you elaborate?

If I say "Alpha males are standoffish" am I presuming a disconnect? Us vs. them?

[sparks]

From an NLP p.o.v., the words, metaphors, etc. we use describe our reality. Read Tyler's stuff now, and I'm sure you will see that he is way more evolved than he used to be. This definitely comes through in the language he uses.

[MagicBalls]

From an NLP p.o.v., the words, metaphors, etc. we use describe our reality. Read Tyler's stuff now, and I'm sure you will see that he is way more evolved than he used to be. This definitely comes through in the language he uses.

Doesn't sound as angry. He's had more time to get comfortable with his ideas and test them, and mature with the changes he's made. I still sense anger underneath, however, and that may be why he puts some people off.

Having said that, I can think of several experiences that attest to each point he made. The part of taking what somebody says and then taking it as their own-- my boss is famous for that. Interestingly enough, my boss is a woman.

[Scoundrel]

An alpha MUST be disconnected. He must appear above the others, aloof. I learned this when I owned a small biz and hired people to work for me.

[sparks]

Definitely. I'm not saying that what he wrote about is useless or wrong. I just think it's low level stuff, and I don't like the place he's coming from.

[sparks]

An alpha MUST be disconnected. He must appear above the others, aloof. I learned this when I owned a small biz and hired people to work for me.

There are two types of aloof: an aloof that's insecure and an aloof that has high self esteem. There is a big difference.

[Scoundrel]

There are two types of aloof: an aloof that's insecure and an aloof that has high self esteem. There is a big difference.

Prehaps, but it's hard to tell the differance from the outside.