Male Encounters during a set

[GettenJizzywitit]

I had a couple experiences happen to me in Uptown this pass week:

1. I opened a single target at a bar the other night and got about 5 minutes into the conversation when she mentioned at some point she taught 8th grade math at a school. A dude about 10ft away at the bar still getting his drink screams, "Hey!!...did you just say your a teacher?!!". We both turned our head toward the guy while he's at the bar and then he came running in trying to game away my target since he was a teacher also. He came in with strong energy and eye contact trying to position me out the set. My initial thought as soon as it happened was to walk away and just find another chick but there was a voice in me that said to stand your ground and win the battle. So I spun around re-positioning my body language and forced the guy to talk to me, which he slightly acknowledged my presence then redirected things back to just him and the target. He wasn't giving any gap for me to get in so I ran my arm up between them and spoke loud to get in and made the target talk to me again. Before you knew it the battle was on and she looked as though she was watching a tennis match individually talking to both of us and my voice and his was getting louder to see who would break. I put him on the spot real quick with an opinion question I asked her and he gave up and split. After it was over and i got a number close from the girl, she was hoping she would see me later that night she had said. So lesson learned - stay in the set and win the battle.

The story below is better:

2. I was at the TMAC tonight and saw a two-set sitting at an outdoor table watching the basketball game. I moved in with an observational opener and started my routine. About 5 minutes in, this tall 6'-4" or so drunk skinny dude with rocker hair comes outside from the bar staggering, and literally staggers over to our table and ask if the 4th chair at our table was taken. He said he was just out to smoke a cigarette. I was in mid-set with my target girl but could overhear him speaking to the side. The other girl tells the guy the seat's not taken so he sits down. He heard me talking and seen how I was acting I guess so his first loud words after sitting down are, "Hey am I witnessing this guy trying to pick up two girls here? wow, I need to watch this!!! " ...the girls laugh like crazy in reaction to his comment. I told the guy, "yes I am. Watch and learn". He trys to pound me down saying, "just be a honest pussy and tell these girls they're beautiful and you came to this table because you want to f**k them. You nothing but a shy prick. Do you even have a passion for anything in life? ". My anger rose up as I smiled but I kept my cool. I looked at the girls slightly through the corner of my eyes while they still was laughing barely containing themselves. I thought about my recent experience with the single girl I mentioned above so I knew if I could win this set that it would show fearlessness, confidence, and increase my value. Except this guy was slap drunk and was cold staring me down after his comment. As much as I wanted to pound his drunk face into the cement below us, I told him to relax and get a drink. Words began to escalate across the table between me and him and the girls were becoming aware that it was getting worse. I recognized this and turned to one of the girls to speak to her. He screamed into the conversation again so I talked to the other girl not looking at him. I did this back and forth for a few minutes until he recognized that he was being ignored. He then went back inside. I stayed about 20 more minutes and number closed the one I wanted. He came back out while I was leaving. I pointed at him and told him, "be careful buddy, if these girls faces end up on the news tonight your looking at the only witness" (and i winked at the girls). The girls burst out laughing while he had no response at all. Oh the girls made plans before I left to chaperon me at the new Blue Martini bar opening up this week in Plano. It was a happy ending in my book.

[EXIA]

This is one of those stories I will remember. It's really inspiring to see someone keep their target locked no matter what, because keeping your ego in check is one of the hardest things to do.

If I may ask have similar events taken place before; where you were just speechless and wanted to walk away?

Just imagining that negative energy from that drunk really rustles my jimmies..

[ninjamatt]

I can give you one persons advice that doesn't study a lot of Pua systems. I guess you would consider a "natural".

These type of guys are the ones you can some times use as a prop and possibly even sometimes transition them in to perspective wingman's or temporary wings if you like their game. It's been my experience that woman generally like men who can make friends with other men of similar social value on a whim. What you can do in the first situation which it sounds like you tried to do with the opinion question at the end is go ahead and involve him in the conversation like you already know him. To me it's a better reaction than just ignoring him all pissed and quiet, and standing there hoping he walks away. Even if he momentarily captures the girls attention even more than you have, and even if she decides to go to a different area with him, it's still ok. But chances are less likely if you are involving both equally in the conversation.

In the second situation I think I understood that he had the girls laughing within moments of sitting down. I think it's real rare to get the "you're a shy pussy" type of call out. I don't recall ever being talked to like that in 11 years of bar hops. One thing I do think was risky, but maybe clever is when you said you were gonna show him how to pick up 2 women at once. For one, if he under achieves (in his mind) with women, and he likes at least one of them, he's gonna be jealous and even pissed off. If the girls don't swing that way, it could possibly piss them off. Someone with his appearance, tall and outspoken seemingly witty like you described can attract a high percentage of women. so again, that's another guy who I might try to involve somewhat in the conversation as a friend before it ever gets to the insults. By the fact that he's overly drunk though, that's just a scenario you have to wade through and ponder. Arguments and fighting among men at a club nearly always scare women and it's a major turn off. When I'm out, it makes no difference to me if I get the phone number of a popular guy, or a hot female. good looking popular men who can approach and have some game can sometimes be another gateway to more women for me than what I can get by myself or hanging with someone that's not good with women.

[Tribulus1000]

Basic amogging tactics.
- Turn the girl's back to the guy.
- Don't acknowledge any invaders. Keep your head steady.
- Cut people out with your body language.
- When engaged, make the guy talk about stupid shit like his job and tell him how cool it is.
- Just tell guys "Have a good night man" and cut him out with body language.

You need an amog mission for about 2 weeks or so.

[Khaos]

Basic amogging tactics.
- Turn the girl's back to the guy.
- Don't acknowledge any invaders. Keep your head steady.
- Cut people out with your body language.
- When engaged, make the guy talk about stupid shit like his job and tell him how cool it is.
- Just tell guys "Have a good night man" and cut him out with body language.

You need an amog mission for about 2 weeks or so.

Cut people down with your humor, not body language. Most people are not witty and they will be blown out by trying to joke around with by saying stupid stuff and making them look dumb.

[Khaos]

Also you should not be worried about other dudes.