Stuctured Daygame With Jokes

[Tribulus1000]

When Wayne (Juggler) comes to town, I'd like to ask him how he qualifies girls. Someone please ask him if I don't get a chance to.

And post the response.

[H_Raja]

Finding something unique in a girl and escalating sexually based on that is the main formula of the Juggler method.

I'm still working on approach anxiety in day game. I can do a few approaches, but I just get really nervous to escalate.

[Midnight]

i find it easy to start a conversation and get a couple minutes of conversation, but taking the next step is harder. i've found using the 'instant date' approach works best. just play it casual and be non-threatning. some example...

after talking 2-3 minutes, I might suggest, "hey, i'm about to get a coffee, are you a coffee drinker?" you see how i didn't ask if she would join me, i ask a question first that she is more likely to say yes to. before she feels threatened, throw in, "coffee is a good way to meet somebody anyway... that way, if you start being creepy and can tell you i have to go and floss my cat and bolt" she will think -- hey wait, i'm the one that's supposed to be on the defensive... hmmmmm, i want to impress this guy now so i can blow him off, that's my job... (you feeling me on this one)

another thing, women love helping guys develop some style. if in the mall, for example, instant date may be, "you seem like you have good fashion sense, XXX store is right around the corner, can you help me pick out something that you think would look good on me, my fashion sense needs help and you look like the artistic type. i've got a date coming up and want to look good." this kind of comment works particularly well with 8+ as a neg. she will think.... hmmm, how come this guy approached me, but now he is asking me about helping him with other girls. always keep her guessing!

i hope these concepts getting your juices flowing and give you some ideas. i've found pretty decent success with the concepts.

[Rhody]

another thing, women love helping guys develop some style. if in the mall, for example, instant date may be, "you seem like you have good fashion sense, XXX store is right around the corner, can you help me pick out something that you think would look good on me, my fashion sense needs help and you look like the artistic type. i've got a date coming up and want to look good." this kind of comment works particularly well with 8+ as a neg. she will think.... hmmm, how come this guy approached me, but now he is asking me about helping him with other girls. always keep her guessing!

I might leave out the part about your fashion sense needing help. Girls like a guy with a keen fashion sense. I don't agree that she will want to date or sleep with a guy who doesn't know how to dress himself. The rest works ok without that statement.

Also, you might reword the "can you" question. You broke your own rule from the previous paragraph. Maybe you could say something like, "I'm curious what you would find sexy on a guy. I'd like you to come along."

[Midnight]

i agree that taking the line out "my fashion sense needs help", could make the approach even better. but i think it defers from the point of the entire approach... the vibe you are trying to portray is you don't care what she thinks. showing confidence and negging her here is much more important than if she thinks you have good fashion sense.

you are NOT trying to impress her, you need her help to impress somebody else... you are indirectly telling her she is not your interest. she needs to win that interest through your communication later. feelin' me now? and anyway, is acknowledging a woman is better at fashion really a shocker to her anyway (unless you are gay of course). if she sees you are well groomed and dressed nicely -- actions speak louder than words. and asking for help shows confidence.

my game is focused on approaching 8-10's and i believe negging these girls immediately drastically lowers their guard and helps you build comfort faster. neg FTC neg neg... then comfort...

[Rhody]

i agree that taking the line out "my fashion sense needs help", could make the approach even better. but i think it defers from the point of the entire approach... the vibe you are trying to portray is you don't care what she thinks. showing confidence and negging her here is much more important than if she thinks you have good fashion sense.

you are NOT trying to impress her, you need her help to impress somebody else... you are indirectly telling her she is not your interest. she needs to win that interest through your communication later. feelin' me now? and anyway, is acknowledging a woman is better at fashion really a shocker to her anyway (unless you are gay of course). if she sees you are well groomed and dressed nicely -- actions speak louder than words. and asking for help shows confidence.

my game is focused on approaching 8-10's and i believe negging these girls immediately drastically lowers their guard and helps you build comfort faster. neg FTC neg neg... then comfort...

There's no reason to get defensive. I was agreeing with you... just tweaking your words. My only point was "I could use a female opinion" or "I'm curious what you find sexy on a guy" is better than "my fashion sense needs help, can you help me?"

On the other hand, on a very basic level, you're still communicating that your date is important enough to you that you're going to buy special clothes to impress this other girl. Like you said, "you need her help to impress somebody else." That's a little AFC. Are you really preselected if your clothes matter so much, if you're trying so hard to impress ANYBODY? Instead of enlisting her help to get other girls, it's better to word it like you already have other girls but you have some free time right now.

Needing her help is bad, and communicating that on any level is not going to flip the attraction switches. Saying you need something from her is like saying there is some higher power that compels her to spend time with you. Rather, she should want to spend time with you because she's attracted to you, because you displayed higher value.

[Kraven]

Whats up gentlemen,

We may all be parsing a little much here, but I think the social proof thing is not so important while shopping since single men and women usually shop alone. Personally I have opened frequently in day game with fashion advice questions or "help" questions.

A lot of my day attract stuff was cribbed from PU101 - the stuff gets women laughing and engaged fast

(Mall Store Patron)" Hey, do you have any (x-items) on sale? You don't work here? Oh, well, I was hoping you'd just help a guy out"

(Supermarket Patron)"You look pretty healthy, I have a quick question for you... I know I want to eat this (fondle your grocery item & hold EC), do you know what goes good with it" (self point here if you want - maybe while grabbing something stupid like gefilte fish)

my game is focused on approaching 8-10's and i believe negging these girls immediately drastically lowers their guard and helps you build comfort faster.

My experience has been lone wolf 9s-10s in day pretty much require negging and/or cocky funny quickly after opening (even if you came in direct style)- they expect to be picked up and if you supplicate, they'll probably think you're a creep and eject shortly or look for security guards

neg FTC neg neg... then comfort...

Like...:

Nice shoes... those are going to be really popular this summer. I have to go pick up my cousins friend in a minute but I was wondering, because it looks sort of like hers - is that your natural hair color? Well that's cool... you know, you have good hands, really strong looking. Let me see your palm before I go, I can tell you a lot about yourself... not that hand, the clean one...

Hmmm, missing "steps" but seems plausible...

[TAG]

What does EC stand for?

And Gefilte fish...that made me laugh.

[TheAwakened]

What does EC stand for?

Eye contact. Memorize that one, you'll see it a lot.