[QUOTE=Rhody;37868]Are those the books that try to convert children to Atheism? I remember there being a huge uproar from Christians when The Golden Compass was in theaters.
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Those books try to 'convert' children to atheism as much as harry potter and lord of the rings tries to. That uproar was because christian extremists didn't like the magic that is used in it or the view point in it; such as the church as a totalitarian power. The same thing happened when harry potter came out, they were up in arms because harry potter used witch craft. I'm sure you remember that too. It's the same thing, this book series uses magic and has fantasy themes, thus it needs to be burned and banned according to the extremists.
Don't believe everything you hear on the news.
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by Guest » Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:48 pm
[QUOTE=Gunslinger;37875]Those books try to 'convert' children to atheism as much as harry potter and lord of the rings tries to. That uproar was because christian extremists didn't like the magic that is used in it or the view point in it; such as the church as a totalitarian power. The same thing happened when harry potter came out, they were up in arms because harry potter used witch craft. I'm sure you remember that too. It's the same thing, this book series uses magic and has fantasy themes, thus it needs to be burned and banned according to the extremists.
Don't believe everything you hear on the news.[/QUOTE]
It went farther than that. He said, "I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief," says Pullman. "Mr. Lewis would think I was doing the Devil's work." Later, he said, "I'm a great fan of J.K. Rowling, but the people - mainly from America's Bible Belt - who complain that Harry Potter promotes Satanism or witchcraft obviously haven't got enough in their lives. Meanwhile, I've been flying under the radar, saying things that are far more subversive than anything poor old Harry has said. My books are about killing God."
[URL]http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/11/philip_pullman_realizes_underm.html[/URL]
I don't believe he was trying to convert children to Atheism. That was too strong, althought that was the accusation at the time. However, I think he's an open Atheist who wanted to provide a secular alternative to the Narnia books, which are clearly Christian propaganda.
BTW, I personally don't think that's a bad thing. I'm interested in reading those books myself.
Don't believe everything you hear on the news.[/QUOTE]
It went farther than that. He said, "I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief," says Pullman. "Mr. Lewis would think I was doing the Devil's work." Later, he said, "I'm a great fan of J.K. Rowling, but the people - mainly from America's Bible Belt - who complain that Harry Potter promotes Satanism or witchcraft obviously haven't got enough in their lives. Meanwhile, I've been flying under the radar, saying things that are far more subversive than anything poor old Harry has said. My books are about killing God."
[URL]http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/11/philip_pullman_realizes_underm.html[/URL]
I don't believe he was trying to convert children to Atheism. That was too strong, althought that was the accusation at the time. However, I think he's an open Atheist who wanted to provide a secular alternative to the Narnia books, which are clearly Christian propaganda.
BTW, I personally don't think that's a bad thing. I'm interested in reading those books myself.
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by Guest » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:14 pm
[QUOTE=Rhody;37882]It went farther than that. He said, "I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief," says Pullman. "Mr. Lewis would think I was doing the Devil's work." Later, he said, "I'm a great fan of J.K. Rowling, but the people - mainly from America's Bible Belt - who complain that Harry Potter promotes Satanism or witchcraft obviously haven't got enough in their lives. Meanwhile, I've been flying under the radar, saying things that are far more subversive than anything poor old Harry has said. My books are about killing God."
[URL]http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/11/philip_pullman_realizes_underm.html[/URL]
BTW, I personally don't think that's a bad thing. I'm interested in reading those books myself.[/QUOTE]
I don't see what an authors religion or lack of religion matters. And how can you kill a god if he is all powerful and immortal? I think you should read the books, before critiquing them and reading internet fodder. Then you can state your own opinions on it and know what you are talking about.
I'm not getting into a religious debate here, I simply stated a book that I liked, because the OP asked about good books. If you, or anyone else doesn't like that, then don't read them and move on with life. The bottom line is this: The christian extremists blew this book out of proportion. It is nothing like they said it was, and it isn't tying to debate religion or push anything on anyone. It is simply a fantasy story, that's it. It has magic and supernatural elements in the books, that itself should tell you the books have no basis in reality. Just as harry potter or vampire books are a work of fiction, so is this. So no matter what you [B][I]think[/I][/B] this books message is, it doesn't matter, because it is not made up of facts.
It is a bit unfortunate that this thread, about books, has turned religious.
[QUOTE=Rhody;37882]
...I think he's an open Atheist who wanted to provide a secular alternative to the Narnia books, which are clearly Christian propaganda.[/QUOTE]
So, I don't see the problem. The cat in the hat is secular also. Does that have a hidden agenda?
[URL]http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/11/philip_pullman_realizes_underm.html[/URL]
BTW, I personally don't think that's a bad thing. I'm interested in reading those books myself.[/QUOTE]
I don't see what an authors religion or lack of religion matters. And how can you kill a god if he is all powerful and immortal? I think you should read the books, before critiquing them and reading internet fodder. Then you can state your own opinions on it and know what you are talking about.
I'm not getting into a religious debate here, I simply stated a book that I liked, because the OP asked about good books. If you, or anyone else doesn't like that, then don't read them and move on with life. The bottom line is this: The christian extremists blew this book out of proportion. It is nothing like they said it was, and it isn't tying to debate religion or push anything on anyone. It is simply a fantasy story, that's it. It has magic and supernatural elements in the books, that itself should tell you the books have no basis in reality. Just as harry potter or vampire books are a work of fiction, so is this. So no matter what you [B][I]think[/I][/B] this books message is, it doesn't matter, because it is not made up of facts.
It is a bit unfortunate that this thread, about books, has turned religious.
[QUOTE=Rhody;37882]
...I think he's an open Atheist who wanted to provide a secular alternative to the Narnia books, which are clearly Christian propaganda.[/QUOTE]
So, I don't see the problem. The cat in the hat is secular also. Does that have a hidden agenda?
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by Guest » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:52 pm
[QUOTE=Rhody;37898]I don't know why you're getting so defensive. I'm not even Christian. In my mind, I never said a negative thing about them. I'm really curious, and I plan on reading them.
Relax.[/QUOTE]
I'm not getting defensive. I just didn't feel like debating religion on this thread, and it somehow got to that point.
Cheers.
Relax.[/QUOTE]
I'm not getting defensive. I just didn't feel like debating religion on this thread, and it somehow got to that point.
Cheers.
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by Guest » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:41 am
Speaking of god. [B]God is a Woman, dating disasters: [/B]is one of my faves
GOD IS A WOMAN.
No discussion, no debate, no denial. She's a woman. That people
challenge this notion is ridiculous. The proof is all around. If God
were a man, He'd be the only one. There would not be another man
anywhere. The entire planet would be full of no one but beautiful
women. Blondes, brunettes, green eyes, brown eyes, big breasts,
medium breasts (no small breasts), full rotund butts, and small tight
asses; whatever was needed to fulfill His passing fancy. And none of
them would have names; that way He wouldn't have to worry about
forgetting them. If God were a man, there would be no STD's and
women wouldn't get pregnant.
The only time there'd be another man is on the rare occasion when
God created one, so that He could hike the guy up to the top of a
mountain to brag. God would point at all the beautiful women and tell
him, "See all them? I sleep with them all, whenever I want."
"Bullshit! You do not."
"The blonde over there rode me all night long. The redhead there
woke me up with a hummer while the blonde was still sleeping beside
me. And you know what? I never have to wear a condom... close
your mouth."
Then God would kill the guy, hike down the mountain, and bang a
brunette. Yup, God is a woman, no doubt about it.
Many women would be thrilled to hear a guy concede that God is
female. Why, I have no idea. Think of all the crap women go through:
age lines, split ends, bleeding, swollen feet, cramps... Why would a
female God put women through all this? Because She is female.
GOD IS A WOMAN.
No discussion, no debate, no denial. She's a woman. That people
challenge this notion is ridiculous. The proof is all around. If God
were a man, He'd be the only one. There would not be another man
anywhere. The entire planet would be full of no one but beautiful
women. Blondes, brunettes, green eyes, brown eyes, big breasts,
medium breasts (no small breasts), full rotund butts, and small tight
asses; whatever was needed to fulfill His passing fancy. And none of
them would have names; that way He wouldn't have to worry about
forgetting them. If God were a man, there would be no STD's and
women wouldn't get pregnant.
The only time there'd be another man is on the rare occasion when
God created one, so that He could hike the guy up to the top of a
mountain to brag. God would point at all the beautiful women and tell
him, "See all them? I sleep with them all, whenever I want."
"Bullshit! You do not."
"The blonde over there rode me all night long. The redhead there
woke me up with a hummer while the blonde was still sleeping beside
me. And you know what? I never have to wear a condom... close
your mouth."
Then God would kill the guy, hike down the mountain, and bang a
brunette. Yup, God is a woman, no doubt about it.
Many women would be thrilled to hear a guy concede that God is
female. Why, I have no idea. Think of all the crap women go through:
age lines, split ends, bleeding, swollen feet, cramps... Why would a
female God put women through all this? Because She is female.
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by Guest » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:53 pm
I'm about 1/2 way through 'I hope they serve beer in hell' and holy shit, this book is awesome. I have been in tears multiple times from laughing so hard. If this shit is true, tucker max is awesome, I love his attitude. I definitely plan on reading his other book next, 'assholes finish first'.
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by Guest » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:49 pm
[QUOTE=Gunslinger;38117]I'm about 1/2 way through 'I hope they serve beer in hell' and holy shit, this book is awesome. I have been in tears multiple times from laughing so hard. If this shit is true, tucker max is awesome, I love his attitude. I definitely plan on reading his other book next, 'assholes finish first'.[/QUOTE]
T-Max is notorious for, shall we say, "embellishing" his stories.
Getting caught in a lie on the Opie and Anthony show.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAbreeMofRg[/url]
T-Max is notorious for, shall we say, "embellishing" his stories.
Getting caught in a lie on the Opie and Anthony show.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAbreeMofRg[/url]
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by Guest » Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:10 pm
[QUOTE=Gunslinger;38117]I'm about 1/2 way through 'I hope they serve beer in hell' and holy shit, this book is awesome. I have been in tears multiple times from laughing so hard. If this shit is true, tucker max is awesome, I love his attitude. I definitely plan on reading his other book next, 'assholes finish first'.[/QUOTE]
I stayed up a couple nights in a row reading his stories on his site. They were indeed hilarious, and no doubt embellished to some degree. He is a great writer and I am sure he added his writers touch to the stories to portray them in the greatest light possible.
I ended up buying his book after I read all the stories on his site. I figured his book was different however it was the same thing on his site.
I stayed up a couple nights in a row reading his stories on his site. They were indeed hilarious, and no doubt embellished to some degree. He is a great writer and I am sure he added his writers touch to the stories to portray them in the greatest light possible.
I ended up buying his book after I read all the stories on his site. I figured his book was different however it was the same thing on his site.
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by Guest » Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:55 am
[QUOTE=Lion;38118]T-Max is notorious for, shall we say, "embellishing" his stories.
Getting caught in a lie on the Opie and Anthony show.
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAbreeMofRg[/URL][/QUOTE]
theres no doubt he embellishes his stories. he wants them to be over the top badass and amazing to sell books...still, ive read a few of his stories and theyre funny as hell...
Getting caught in a lie on the Opie and Anthony show.
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAbreeMofRg[/URL][/QUOTE]
theres no doubt he embellishes his stories. he wants them to be over the top badass and amazing to sell books...still, ive read a few of his stories and theyre funny as hell...
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