America, the new China.

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[QUOTE=Muk;37849]Maybe I'm too stupid to understand this, but why would the government give two shits about censoring out crazy people from saying negative things about Muslims? They may say "OK Guys, no need to be a dick to the Muslims, they aren't all crazed lunatics." but to go so far as to run a bill specifically to censor out the haters and do it under the guise of "Protecting Copyright" That's a pretty huge stretch. And PLEASE don't say that it's because "Obama is a Muslim" because he's not, and even if he were, that's still a huge stretch.

This isn't about Muslims; It's about all of these lobbying groups trying to take control over the internet and trampling free speech while they're at it.[/QUOTE]


They would do it for the sake of preventing tensions between Muslims and followers or other religions.

Liberals love to use 'inflammatory speech' as an excuse to silence dissent.

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[QUOTE=Muk;37849]Maybe I'm too stupid to understand this, but why would the government give two shits about censoring people from saying negative things about Muslims? [/QUOTE]

Fixed.

Anyway.. In other news...

[URL]http://www.foxnews.com/world/2009/10/09/german-publisher-fearing-muslim-retaliation-cancels-honor-killing-novel/[/URL]

[URL]http://canwebelieveit.info/2010/09/11/muslim-retaliation-expected/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/FK13Ae05.html[/URL]

[URL]http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/indonesian-islamic-supremacists-threaten-retaliation-for-florida-quran-burning.html[/URL]

[URL]http://www.examiner.com/populist-in-national/imam-warns-of-retaliation-if-ground-zero-islamic-center-is-moved-video[/URL]

[URL]http://www.policeone.com/news/1806479-NYPD-sees-threat-in-Israel-Iran-tensions/[/URL]

[URL]http://patdollard.com/2009/11/2012-filmmaker-destroys-christ-the-redeemer-instead-of-mecca-for-fear-of-muslim-retaliation/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/11/08/2009-11-08_top_army_official_fears_retaliation_on_muslim_soldiers_in_wake_of_ft_hood_massac.html[/URL]

[URL]http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/04/retaliation_lawsuit_against_ba.html[/URL]

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartoon_Wars_Part_II[/URL]

Basically.. just google "Muslim retaliation" and go down the list. Maybe because the people that tend to be the crazy ones that like to kill people are muslims because, how was it you put it... oh yes... [QUOTE="Muk"]"[they don't take shit from anyone.]" [/QUOTE] I don't know, "why would the government give two shits about censoring people from saying negative things about Muslims?"

Not saying they SHOULD give 2 shits... but all over the world, civilized people are kowtowing around these "peaceful muslims". I guess Muk, I have to agree... Why should they?

Man, I wish I had carte blanche on killing people that offended or opposed me... if I did, I might be inclined to knock on your door. But seeing as I am the crazy bigot who hates everyone different than he is, and doesn't have carte blanche on violence because he's a white christian, I should just continue to be civilized and non-violent.

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err...yes...Muslims tend to not like the idea of being anyone's bitch...I'm not sure I understand the point of you quoting me from almost a year ago... I'm sure you share that sentiment.

I also agree with you that there are Muslims who are batshit insane.

Seems to me that our difference only lies in the charge that Muslim = Ter-rist!! and anyone who's calls themself a Muslim and aren't batshit insane aren't "Real Muslims" Obviously, you know more about Islam than the people who read the books front to back (some of which even have the whole book memorized word for word) apparently, all it takes to know what Islam is about is to go to a few biased anti-Muslims websites and read a few out of context passages.

The Ku Klux Klan is group of Christian Extremists, would it be fair to lump you and all other Christians into that group of good ole boys? And then go further by saying that all Christians who aren't down with lynching non-white people aren't "REAL" Christians?

This topic is old and played out. You're obviously not going to change your mind, and...well I'm not sure exactly what you expect from me. You did say something about wishing you had the right to knock on my door and kill me. not sure of what I did to deserve that wish. just know that I won't just hand you my head. If Christianity is the religion of peace then why are you, a Christian, making threats against me, who has done you no harm. Am I pissing you off because I don't fit into your little box of what you think a "REAL" Muslim is? Or am I a scheming sleeper cell, just waiting the opportune time to get you?

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Quite frankly, I am much more interested in the Original topic and it's implications for free speech. Even though there is little chance of this bill passing, I find it appalling that there is a faction of our leaders who thinks that this is a good idea. It's just so blatantly obvious that they're willing to sell out the American people for the lobbyists.

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[QUOTE=Muk;37860]Quite frankly, I am much more interested in the Original topic and it's implications for free speech. Even though there is little chance of this bill passing, I find it appalling that there is a faction of our leaders who thinks that this is a good idea. It's just so blatantly obvious that they're willing to sell out the American people for the lobbyists.[/QUOTE]

I find it funny that you write a reply, that asserts that I am some sort of redneck that's just out to get me some [QUOTE]Ter-rist!![/QUOTE] Trying to throw stones are we? Yet also still ignores and doesn't answer the fact that your "peaceful muslims" seem to be the only ones retaliating on a consistent basis, because I'm taking it out of context... care to explain them maybe?

Also, I understand you'll never change Muk, what I want from you: explain your position.

BTW, what percentage of islam is radical do you think?

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[QUOTE=Smirks;37847]Settle down.

Don't make me censor you both!

Sincerely,
Big Brother[/QUOTE]

...don't ignore me.

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That's the New American spirit! Let's bury our heads in the sand and ignore everything.

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You can express your opinions all you want. Just cut the personal jabs at one another.

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All religions condone violence but all religions are 100% willing to commit violence in the name of their God (save for some Eastern religions, but Buddism, Taoism, Confucianism, etc. are more philosophies than religions).

Right now, it appears that the Muslims are the most violent religion. But, remember more people have been killed in the name of religion than for any thing else.

The reality is this: all religions were created by MAN as a way of controlling other people's actions, decisions, and lives. Today, religion is not quite as potent at controlling man as it once was. This is the reason for the rise of oppressive government throughout the world.

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[QUOTE=Bull Run;37877]All religions condone violence but all religions are 100% willing to commit violence in the name of their God (save for some Eastern religions, but Buddism, Taoism, Confucianism, etc. are more philosophies than religions).

Right now, it appears that the Muslims are the most violent religion. But, remember more people have been killed in the name of religion than for any thing else.

The reality is this: all religions were created by MAN as a way of controlling other people's actions, decisions, and lives. Today, religion is not quite as potent at controlling man as it once was. This is the reason for the rise of oppressive government throughout the world.[/QUOTE]

the truth.