Diet foods

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Postby Guest » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:02 pm

[QUOTE=Finesse;36331]Just any peanut butter? Or is there a particular kind you guys prefer for any reason? Fat free etc..[/QUOTE]

No sir, natural peanut butter. Any kind of natural PB is usually a good choice. I don't even know if you can get natty PB fat free. I wouldn't get fat free if my life depended on it, fat is a vital nutrient. I have to re-enforce this - fat does not make you fat. Excess calories in the form of junk, sugar, and refined carbohydrates make you fat. A fat free diet will never, ever fulfill you. Fat is needed for satiety, to make you feel full. Imagine eating chinese food, mostly carbs, and being hungry again 30 minutes later no matter how much you ate. That is a lack of fat at work. No one is hungry 30 minutes later after eating steak and eggs and nobody ever got fat from steak and eggs.
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Postby Guest » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:10 pm

[QUOTE=Lion;36334] nobody ever got fat from steak and eggs.[/QUOTE]

oh yeah, well you havent seen my family! lol. They are in the BEEF business and thats all they eat. I agree with your point, just giving you a hard time. You still have to eat in moderation.
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Postby Guest » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:15 pm

[QUOTE=UncleHOwie;36335]oh yeah, well you havent seen my family! lol. They are in the BEEF business and thats all they eat. I agree with your point, just giving you a hard time. You still have to eat in moderation.[/QUOTE]

If beef was all they ate they would not be fat (not saying they are!). They probably add potato's, cornbread, sugar, desserts, etc. to their meals.
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Postby Guest » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:33 am

yeah, so I'm still a fatass, but I'm making some pretty good progress so I'll drop in a couple cent. I've basically been doing what Grimm is talking about. I eat pretty much whatever I want, with total calorie count Protein content being the only things I watch. 1gram protein for each pound of lean body mass. usually if I'm getting enough protein, everything else should fall into place anyways.

Find out what your RMR (Resting Metabolic Rate) is and subtract 500calories from it. For most people you could simply multiply your bodyweight by 11 and it'll give you a pretty good estimate. You'll have to trial and error to find out what it is exactly. If you're losing weight, you're in deficit, if you're gaining weight, you're too high. multiplying by 11 basically just gives you a pretty good starting point.

(or have the test done...you basically breathe into a machine for 10 minutes and it gives you your RMR. I could give you info of the place I went to for my test. It's in West Fort worth, so I don't know if that's convenient for you)

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One of the best investments I've made in a while. most people stand by the George Foreman grill (I've never had one, so I can't comment, but I love my sanyo grill) I strongly suggest getting some kind of grill be it ole Georgie or something else. They're great because you don't have to add any oil to cook your meals.

Meals I eat on the regular:
Grilled Fish (usually about 8oz of Tilapia) I season it with garlic, Lawry's season salt, and lemon pepper (or red pepper) and throw it on the grill. add some rice and tea (or water) and you have a meal

I also Grill Chicken Breast with rice

I also go for some Fajitas. Grilled chicken, saute Green and red bell peppers and onions, throw that together on a tortilla with light sour cream and salsa

Oatmeal mixed with a scoop of Vanilla Whey Protein is surprisingly good! Some people eat it without sugar, I'm not one of them...yet...I put a tablespoon of sugar in and go to town. maybe add 4 oz of beef steak to the side (I don't eat pork, so no bacon for me, and I just don't like Turkey bacon)

Can't go wrong with Steak and Eggs

you could also try eating Tuna straight out of the can (seriously, it's not as bad as you might think)

I also make Chile by the Huge Fucking Potfull but that's actually much more complex than I want to get into. I usually take a bowl and throw it in the microwave whenever I want a quick meal (same thing with chicken soup and beef stew there are recipes all over the internet try a few out)
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Postby Guest » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:56 am

Muk, I agree with most of what you said, but you should think about reevaluating your logic.

In layman's terms, your RMR is the amout of calories you burn by operating your vital organs and functions. So if you are consuming less calories than your RMR, then you should lose weight. It is congruent with the weight loss formula: burn more calories than you consume = weight loss.

The one thing I disagree with in your post is when you say you eat "whatever you want." not all foods are created equal and The calories you get from a big mac is not equivalent to that of a salad (or healthier option).

By no means am I a nutritionist, but I do know a thing or two about fitness and have the body to back it.

I am not saying that you should change anything. If you are seeing results and it's working for you, by all means, continue your dieting plan.

My intention is to clarify (to those that have little knowledge of diet) that you shouldn't only eat one big mac meal a day and nothing else and by doing so, you will lose weight since you consumed less calories than your RMR. Though it may be true, it's not entirely healthy. A good diet plan should keep you feeling satisfied, provide essential nutrients and provide energy for strenuous exercise. you will be a healthier person by eating healthier option and You should see faster results if you keep your entire diet in check.
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Postby Guest » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:04 am

Tried the cottage cheese this morning. I added some bluberries to it though. Pretty damn good! Thanks guys.

What is a general daily food plan for you guys?
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Postby Guest » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:15 am

[QUOTE=Finesse;36340]Tried the cottage cheese this morning. I added some bluberries to it though. Pretty damn good! Thanks guys.

What is a general daily food plan for you guys?[/QUOTE]

Blueberries are awesome. My favorite salad is just some leafy greens, blueberries, and balsamic vinegar. It doesn't get better than that.

For the cottage cheese, you can get some granola or some other low-calorie, low sugar healthy-ish cereal and add it to the cottage cheese. That's f'ing delicious and lower calorie than normal. Be careful though, it's so good you can go overboard and eat too much.

*While I think it best to never mix carbohydrates and fat, it isn't entirely practical all the time.
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Postby Guest » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:34 am

[QUOTE=Finesse;36340]Tried the cottage cheese this morning. I added some bluberries to it though. Pretty damn good! Thanks guys.

What is a general daily food plan for you guys?[/QUOTE]

I have a couple different meal plans depending on my goals. My main, maintenance meal plan is what I eat normally and I feel like superman while eating it. This is a 95% raw diet. My energy while lifting is through the roof. While eating this way I could lift for 2 solid hours intensely and still have energy for more. When I went back to mostly cooked food the energy went away. Never again. It includes:

*Raw Milk
*Plenty raw salads with either balsamic vinegar or cold pressed olive oil. Sometimes I include blue cheese or feta cheese
*Plenty raw Tomato's
*Plenty, and I mean plenty, raw fruits (Apples, oranges, blueberries)
*Raw cheese (made from raw, unpasteurized milk)
*Raw muscle meats (fatty steaks)
*Some raw fish, not a whole lot
*Raw liver
*Sometimes raw cashews
*Raw eggs

This is obviously not for everyone but when I started eating this way I saw a huge change in physique (I was barely working out when I noticed the change) and a huge change in attitude and mood.

Currently I am eating for a short term goal. The majority of what I eat right now is:

*Raw eggs. Tons of raw eggs. Think to yourself about what large amount of eggs is and then triple it and you might be close to how many I eat daily. Purchased directly from the organic farmers.
*Raw fatty beef - grass fed organic only. Purchased directly from the farmers.
*Raw chicken liver - organic. Purchased from whole foods.

This has been my diet for 3 weeks and I recently added salads with blueberries, cashews, and a bit of cheese. Every 5 or 6 days I eat a carbohydrate meal (rice or pasta).

When I was at my leanest I ate scrambled eggs (up to 18) with cheese and steak daily. I ate low carbs, mostly rice and beans which, when combined, form a complete protein. Some baked sweet potatoes. Lots of salmon. Lots of hamburger patties. Lots of tuna from the can. Lots of pork chops. Some whole wheat waffles with sugar free syrup (now I would recommend Agave nectar instead of sugar free syrup. Sugar free almost always contains aspartame which is poison. I would get fast food once a week just to keep myself sane. I stayed super lean this way, never counting calories.
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