Lessons in magic/pua

[rockinboy]

I need some major help I think.

I'm in a band. We play semi-big shows. Our music is of the type that many girls like. Therefore, after shows, we're usually surrounded. And I can actually SEE where it'd be easy to have someone after each show. But I never do. I talk to a few girls. I hug, etc. Make the casual after show conversation, but nothing.

I'd totally be willing to trade a few magic secrets for some decent help. I've been doing card tricks for 13 years now. Along with some other little tricks that I know get attention.

[TheAwakened]

Sounds to me like it's not that much different from regular day game, aside from the fact that you start off with a lot of social proof by being in the band. You probably play most of your shows at night, but the same principles should still apply.

I'd guess from the information that you've given us here that you're not being direct enough, so the girls just think you're being friendly Fluff until you find out something besides her looks that interests you and SOI her on it.

[Rhody]

Judging from your posts here, my guess is you only need to work on your inner game right now. You have the major advantage of being in a band and having instant social proof. All you need now is to realize that YOU ARE THE MAN, and you will subcommunicate that naturally. Right now, you are probably subcommunicating a little doubt and insecurity, which may negate the effect of your social proof.

My guess is you can't calibrate the situation and know what you can get away with. Next time you're done with a show, try something bold and see how it goes. You were on stage and everybody's eyes were on you. Forget about attraction material. If I were you, I'd grab the cutest girl I see and say, "buy me a drink and tell me about yourself." You might be surprised how many stages of MM you can skip if you maintain the strong frame you had when you were on stage. I bet you could qualify and tease for 5 or 10 minutes and get an instant date.

BTW, what instrument do you play?

[rockinboy]

Well, funny thing, last night I did have a lot more of the attitude than normal, since I've been reading the forum, etc. I made it a point not to stick to one place, using the line of "I'm looking for my dad". I really was. It didn't look needy, because I'm 30, and my dad was actually there, haha.

I even tried some negging with a girl who's ok looking, but is also a "band friend". Not a groupie. She just works with a couple of the guys, and is at every one of our shows. Actually, I tried negging in a semi group setting, and she's the only one it seemed to work on, haha.

I play bass, by the way.