More ragging on Obama...

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[QUOTE=Muk;35776]Dang, Finesse...did I piss you off or something?

for the record:
I still like you[/QUOTE]

Recent posts you've made have, yes. The extent of my pissed offness revolves around how much of the liberal, rights stealing, income stealing, agenda you support. That is something I am still not entirely clear on.

I hate the whole liberal movement with every fiber in my being in regards to most aspects of it. Sadly, people I know often times come into the mix. My relatives included.

I just want people to leave me the fuck alone, stop taking the shit I work hard for in the name of "charity" and "protection" and let me be there are certain programs that I like, some I don't.

I like you Muk, I just don't like the views you've expressed lately being imposed on me against my will.

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[URL]http://www.rttnews.com/ArticleView.aspx?Id=1269298[/URL]

[QUOTE]Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon, has issued an open letter lashing out at President Barack Obama's proposed plan to cancel the Constellation program.

Along with Armstrong, the letter was also signed by Jim Lovell, commander of the famous Apollo 13 flight, and Gene Cernan, the commander of Apollo 17 and the last man to walk on the moon.

In the letter, obtained by NBC news, the famous astronauts said some of the components of Obama's proposed budget for NASA have merit, including an increase in total funding, substantial research and technology development and an extension of the International Space Station operation.

However, they said the accompanying decision to cancel the Constellation program, its Ares 1 and Ares V rockets, and the Orion spacecraft, is devastating.

"America's only path to low Earth orbit and the International Space Station will now be subject to an agreement with Russia to purchase space on their Soyuz (at a price of over 50 million dollars per seat with significant increases expected in the near future) until we have the capacity to provide transportation for ourselves," the astronauts said.
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Sure lets give $50 Million to Russia... Instead of them paying us to be on our flights... lets just pay them... sounds great!!!

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[URL]http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-01-27/news/os-no-moon-for-nasa-20100126_1_constellation-program-human-spaceflight-space-agency[/URL]

[QUOTE]The troubled and expensive Ares I rocket that was to replace the space shuttle to ferry humans to space will be gone, along with money for its bigger brother, the Ares V cargo rocket that was to launch the fuel and supplies needed to take humans back to the moon.[/QUOTE]

No Ares? How do we get to Mars then? What happened to the 10 billion we've already spent? What happens to all the reseach from that?

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In the meantime, the White House will direct NASA to concentrate on Earth-science projects — principally, researching and monitoring climate change — and on a new technology research and development program that will one day make human exploration of asteroids and the inner solar system possible.
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Wait... so instead of funding an actual space exploration... we are funding research on climate change for asteroids?


*cough* BULLSHIT*cough*

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yea...but do you even know what my views are?
I refuse to accept either label I am neither conservative, nor liberal though most of my views are conservative.

1: Health care NEEDED reform, but I oppose this BS bill that passed I don't feel like it addresses what the real problems with healthcare is.

2: Gay and Transgender people are delusional. Supporting them and giving them special rights is like telling the retard who thinks he's superman that he can fly and pushing him off a cliff.

3: I am in the process of getting a CHL

4: You think I like paying taxes while some irresponsible dumbshits gets $5k+ for not working?? I'm a delivery driver, so I get to see every year what they do with their income tax checks. I've seen way too many times several kids walking around in underwear,, in a shitty apt and a brand new big screen LCD TV box sitting in the living room and huge fucking rims on a shitty car I see this shit every year and it pisses me off to no end

I could go on and on...


You think I'm a liberal?? in-correcto~

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[QUOTE=Muk;35784]yea...but do you even know what my views are?
I refuse to accept either label I am neither conservative, nor liberal though most of my views are conservative.

1: Health care NEEDED reform, but I oppose this BS bill that passed I don't feel like it addresses what the real problems with healthcare is.

2: Gay and Transgender people are delusional. Supporting them and giving them special rights is like telling the retard who thinks he's superman that he can fly and pushing him off a cliff.

3: I am in the process of getting a CHL

4: You think I like paying taxes while some irresponsible dumbshits gets $5k+ for not working?? I'm a delivery driver, so I get to see every year what they do with their income tax checks. I've seen way too many times several kids walking around in underwear,, in a shitty apt and a brand new big screen LCD TV box sitting in the living room and huge fucking rims on a shitty car I see this shit every year and it pisses me off to no end

I could go on and on...


You think I'm a liberal?? in-correcto~[/QUOTE]

No I don't know what all your views are which is why I said, "I like you Muk, I just don't like the views you've expressed lately." Or at least the way I have interpretted your views based on arguments you've presented such as, [QUOTE=Muk]"Sharia law, you'd know how similar it is to common law
and..." [/QUOTE]and "[QUOTE=Muk]she's not "Underage" she might be because of what YOU believe and YOUR laws in YOUR country "[/QUOTE]

Couple the above with the impression you have given about supporting the Obama Regime, and I have a really big problem with the path that it appears to me is going down the wrong path. He's a socialist who preaches socialist agendas and then speaks out both sides of his mouth. I am sick and tired of this country heal/stepping with socialism.

Couple that with the fact that you were supporting Islam when the main thing to come out of it withing the past 100 year was violence and I have an even bigger problem. You say a difference between Islam and Christianity is that [Islamists don't take any disrespect], but have you ever thought aboout who defines what "disrespect" is? Christians just by being alive disrespect the Muslims I know in this town. Most I know look at the christian faith with contempt. And another nail in the Obama coffin is that he SUPPORTS Islam and can only state shit that Islam did that benefitted mankind from thousands of years ago, like the invention of algebra, etc.. Islam currently is responsible for most of the major violence in the world, and I am supposed to be tolerant of that religion? Fuck that.

If you should so happen to fall on those sides of my beefs with society and obama, then so be it. I don't know what your opinions are and I am tired of asking people. I'm glad you made these feelings on welfare known, I am glad we agree on that.

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Obama scrapped the only CONCRETE program we had - with drawings, dates, budget figures, etc. And yes it was Obama, because it was done as a part of the executive budget recommendation.

Sure he made promises about... someday long after his tenure.. landing on an asteroid and going to Mars, but that was only after our astronauts wrote a letter and a nation full of people like the ones on this board got pissed off and pressured him in to responding.

There is no meat behind those promises. Just cheap, pie in the sky "hope." Moon landings cost money...promises are free.

I am not so naive to believe a politician's promises. And Obama is def a politician's politician.


I'd rather go to Mars too, so I guess my point is that I don't believe it's the "either/or" scenario Obama presented. In fact, I think going to the moon compliments the Mars mission. Put this way - how can we go to Mars if we can't even make it back to the moon?

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lolol it's not my fault that you didn't do any research before slamming Islam.

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[URL]http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-01/rumor-obama-budget-slash-funds-constellation-future-moon-missions[/URL]

[QUOTE]So what is in the budget? According to administration insiders, agency officials, industry wonks and sources on The Hill, the Obama White House wants NASA to pursue a “heavy-lift” rocket capable of taking humans and robots beyond low-earth orbit at some faraway, yet-to-be-determined date. The White House also wants NASA to focus more attention on climate change research and monitoring and developing programs enabling future exploration of asteroids and the inner solar system. A 2020 life extension for the ISS is also expected.[/QUOTE]

Heavy Lift rocket?... umm... that's kinda sorta what the Constellation program was... how to get stuff into space...

It takes 15 pounds of fuel to send 1 pound of payload or weight into space...

Uh oh, he just scraped the program developing an alternate fueling source...

I don't think this is gonna work out to well.

I think it's safe to assume Obama is just stringing people along like he always does. He doesn't give 2 shits about NASA

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[QUOTE=Muk;35787]lolol it's not my fault that you didn't do any research before slamming Islam.[/QUOTE]

And then you make shit ass comments like this.

Islam is a fucking shithole of a religion and I stand by it when I said the only thing to come out of it in the last 100 years is something we can all live without, crappiles of major worldy violence.

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what good has Islam done? I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but Islam is a religion. Religions don't do anything. people do. Not only this, but you make yourself look like a pot calling the kettle black. plently of Christians (people, not the religion) have done atrocious things just like plenty of Muslims (It's Muslim, not "Islamist" don't be a tard) have done atrocious things. difference being when a muslim does something wrong, he's "OMG MUSLIM ISLAMIST TERRORIST EVILDOER" but when a Christian does something, he's simply known by name.

and I stand behind what I said about the "Underage" girl with older men. it's the people and government who decides what underage means, not some arrogant American who thinks that his way is the only way. They think a lot of things we do here are ass-backwards to. Do you want them telling you how you should live your life and govern YOUR country? Fact of the matter is, you're simply wrong on that count, it's not an opinion, you're wrong. Own up to it.