More ragging on Obama...

[Guest]

Obama has basically scrapped NASA. He announced today plans to scrap federal funding for a replacement for the shuttle program, which is being phased out this year. So no more manned space flight.

Technically, he's raising NASA's budget. But he's changed its mission - the new dollars to NASA are going to study climate change and subsidize Boeing so it can hire more people.


Going to the moon might be the USA's greatest achievement in it's entire history. Ever. Thousands of years from now, a lot will be forgotten - but the USA will always have been the first country to go to the moon. It's just an outrage, an absolute outrage, that we don't want to continue to commit to space exploration.

[Guest]

I was reading an article that said Obama is scrapping a moon mission, but putting money into travel to the international space station and building a rocket that will go farther out into space than man has ever been. Buzz Aldren supports Obama's space program. It didn't look like Obama was scrapping NASA or space exploration to me, just one moon mission.

What's so important about going to the moon anyway? It's a dull, lifeless rock.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Rhody;35736]What's so important about going to the moon anyway? It's a dull, lifeless rock.[/QUOTE]


I'm not a fan of NASA, but it's symbolic for American Exceptionalism so I'm cool with the program. I'd rather my tax dollars go towards space exploration than towards a ponzi scheme, social program such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the new Obamacare.

Obama is the least accomplished president we've ever had...he's an empty suit with a golden tongue. He'll go down as the worst president in the history of the U.S. The upside, he awoke a sleeping giant...people are starting to see exactly how instrusive our governments are in our lives. Carter gave us Reagan...who will Obama give us?

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Bull Run;35740]Carter gave us Reagan...who will Obama give us?[/QUOTE]

Stolen..

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Bull Run;35740]I'm not a fan of NASA, but it's symbolic for American Exceptionalism so I'm cool with the program. I'd rather my tax dollars go towards space exploration than towards a ponzi scheme, social program such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the new Obamacare.[/QUOTE]

That's why I would rather the money go to programs that take men beyond the moon. We've already been to the moon. Now let's go to Mars.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Rhody;35744]That's why I would rather the money go to programs that take men beyond the moon. We've already been to the moon. Now let's go to Mars.[/QUOTE]

Where are the concrete plans to build a ship to take Americans to Mars? There are NONE. All we have is promises. Meanwhile, if you look at the real budget, and not take everything Obama says as fact, NASA is being set up to study climate change. China will go to Mars. Or the UN in some kind of joint hand-holding effort. We will save the fucking polar bears.

I'm starting to realize one thing - Obama and the left hate America. He wants to take the one thing that sets us apart from everybody else - the fact that we've been to the moon - and scrap it. Then slowly chip away at our prosperity until we're at everyone else's level. Then, when the time is right - give up our autonomy to the United Nations.

[Guest]

Here is what someone on a political forum said when I asked a similar question. This just about sums up the liberal attitude. Pathetic.


"What exactly do you expect out of NASA? More moon landings? Farther landings and more American flags?

I'm more shocked that he thinks its okay to increase funding for NASA. We need to focus on social projects. Hell, we still have the health care system to work out.

I would have decreased funding to organizations that aren't vital, till the economy got better. I wouldn't have spent less, just redirected the funds to the community. Promotion of businesses being a big one.

We don't need to be a great country. "Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious"-Oscar Wilde.

We need to be a world community and less of a single country."

[Guest]

[QUOTE=grimm1111;35745]I'm starting to realize one thing - Obama and the left hate America. He wants to take the one thing that sets us apart from everybody else - the fact that we've been to the moon - and scrap it. Then slowly chip away at our prosperity until we're at everyone else's level. Then, when the time is right - give up our autonomy to the United Nations.[/QUOTE]


DING, DING, DING...

That is the plan. They hate America, they hate exceptionalism, they hate the confidence that success and achievement brings, and they hate that the lower and middle class are free. Truthfully, they're trying to create a permanent class structure. Poor depending on the political class, the political class stealing from the middle-class to give to the poor. The class you're born in will be the class you stay in. This way, the powerful always remain powerful.

[Guest]

when you have a trillion dollar Credit Card Bill, Power bills to pay, and plumbing problems, that trip to Hawaii doesn't sound like a good idea.

Just sayin

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Muk;35749]when you have a trillion dollar Credit Card Bill, Power bills to pay, and plumbing problems, that trip to Hawaii doesn't sound like a good idea.

Just sayin[/QUOTE]

That's the best argument for the other side, I'd say. But we're talking about our legacy. I think we lose something of ourselves when we give up the space program.

We were the first nation in the history of the earth to go to the moon.

Here's a quote from Ronald Reagan.

"We've grown used to wonders in this century. It's hard to dazzle us. But for twenty-five years the United States space program has been doing just that. We've grown used to the idea of space, and, perhaps we forget that we've only just begun. We're still pioneers. "

We ARE still pioneers. That's a part of the American soul. Exploration and discovery are a part of the American soul.

I know that times are tough, but it's all part of taking a chance and expanding man's horizons. The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted, as Reagan also said, it belongs to the brave.