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by Guest » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:11 am
I love this site and his content. Truth be told, the older I get and the more I deal with women the more of a misogynist I become. I've come to see women good for only a few things: 1) being attractive and 2) fucking (which most women suck at anyway).
Generally, they make for horrible co-workers, horrible employees, and completely useless friends. The fact is that men are the superior of the two sexes, but the power of the vag sets us back. That is our Achille's Heel. The truth is that we have allowed this to happen. It is our fault that women, not all but in general, have become so unruly and disguisting as a human. We have taken all of the power and strength that is inherent in being a man and handed it over to women because we just want that one thing...pussy.
I think one of the real problems driving this dynamic, besides the Sexual Revolution and pop culture, is the demonization of prostitution in this country. Back in the day, it was a normal thing to seek out a prostitute. The cash for sex model was just thought of as a way of life. Since men were free to pursue a prostitute whenever the urge struck, they weren't controlled and driven to get pussy through 'legitimate' channels. This allowed men to make decisions about life partners based on all of the important things about her like personality, compability, etc. Sex wasn't part of the equation because it was already taken care of, so men didn't make relationship decisions while being immersed in the fog of lust.
But, today, since prostitution is so frowned upon men essentially only have one way to get laid and that's through 'legitimate' channels. As such, the focus of personality, compability, and other important items that relationships should be based upon are not always in the forefront of a man's thought process when pursuing a woman. Instead, it becomes a function of sex. Will she fuck him? If the answer is yes, most men will engage her in a relationship and deal with all of the baggage that comes with her.
Generally, they make for horrible co-workers, horrible employees, and completely useless friends. The fact is that men are the superior of the two sexes, but the power of the vag sets us back. That is our Achille's Heel. The truth is that we have allowed this to happen. It is our fault that women, not all but in general, have become so unruly and disguisting as a human. We have taken all of the power and strength that is inherent in being a man and handed it over to women because we just want that one thing...pussy.
I think one of the real problems driving this dynamic, besides the Sexual Revolution and pop culture, is the demonization of prostitution in this country. Back in the day, it was a normal thing to seek out a prostitute. The cash for sex model was just thought of as a way of life. Since men were free to pursue a prostitute whenever the urge struck, they weren't controlled and driven to get pussy through 'legitimate' channels. This allowed men to make decisions about life partners based on all of the important things about her like personality, compability, etc. Sex wasn't part of the equation because it was already taken care of, so men didn't make relationship decisions while being immersed in the fog of lust.
But, today, since prostitution is so frowned upon men essentially only have one way to get laid and that's through 'legitimate' channels. As such, the focus of personality, compability, and other important items that relationships should be based upon are not always in the forefront of a man's thought process when pursuing a woman. Instead, it becomes a function of sex. Will she fuck him? If the answer is yes, most men will engage her in a relationship and deal with all of the baggage that comes with her.
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by Guest » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:37 am
[QUOTE=Bull Run;35633]
Generally, they make for horrible co-workers, horrible employees, and completely useless friends. The fact is that men are the superior of the two sexes, but the power of the vag sets us back. That is our Achille's Heel. The truth is that we have allowed this to happen. It is our fault that women, not all but in general, have become so unruly and disgusting as a human. We have taken all of the power and strength that is inherent in being a man and handed it over to women because we just want that one thing...pussy.
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I have to disagree here. Not only are my favorite and best co-workers female, my closest friends since college have all been female. I (for the most part) agree that being a man has taken a backseat to acquiring pussy, but I don't feel it's to the severity you speak of. Then again, I know you quite well and know how you over-dramatize to get the point across :)
[QUOTE=Bull Run;35633]
I think one of the real problems driving this dynamic, besides the Sexual Revolution and pop culture, is the demonization of prostitution in this country. Back in the day, it was a normal thing to seek out a prostitute. The cash for sex model was just thought of as a way of life. Since men were free to pursue a prostitute whenever the urge struck, they weren't controlled and driven to get pussy through 'legitimate' channels. This allowed men to make decisions about life partners based on all of the important things about her like personality, compability, etc. Sex wasn't part of the equation because it was already taken care of, so men didn't make relationship decisions while being immersed in the fog of lust.
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I also disagree with this. When prostitution was a common thing, women (including those NOT in the prostitution industry) were considered more like objects than compatible, personable life partners like you describe. They just had duties beyond sex...like doing the damn dishes! haha
I know this is merely your perception, and your perception has been jaded by events here and there, but it seems a little too extreme to be a healthy outlook on the opposite sex. Kinda seems like there is some unresolved issue fueling the misogyny, too. :(
Generally, they make for horrible co-workers, horrible employees, and completely useless friends. The fact is that men are the superior of the two sexes, but the power of the vag sets us back. That is our Achille's Heel. The truth is that we have allowed this to happen. It is our fault that women, not all but in general, have become so unruly and disgusting as a human. We have taken all of the power and strength that is inherent in being a man and handed it over to women because we just want that one thing...pussy.
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I have to disagree here. Not only are my favorite and best co-workers female, my closest friends since college have all been female. I (for the most part) agree that being a man has taken a backseat to acquiring pussy, but I don't feel it's to the severity you speak of. Then again, I know you quite well and know how you over-dramatize to get the point across :)
[QUOTE=Bull Run;35633]
I think one of the real problems driving this dynamic, besides the Sexual Revolution and pop culture, is the demonization of prostitution in this country. Back in the day, it was a normal thing to seek out a prostitute. The cash for sex model was just thought of as a way of life. Since men were free to pursue a prostitute whenever the urge struck, they weren't controlled and driven to get pussy through 'legitimate' channels. This allowed men to make decisions about life partners based on all of the important things about her like personality, compability, etc. Sex wasn't part of the equation because it was already taken care of, so men didn't make relationship decisions while being immersed in the fog of lust.
[/QUOTE]
I also disagree with this. When prostitution was a common thing, women (including those NOT in the prostitution industry) were considered more like objects than compatible, personable life partners like you describe. They just had duties beyond sex...like doing the damn dishes! haha
I know this is merely your perception, and your perception has been jaded by events here and there, but it seems a little too extreme to be a healthy outlook on the opposite sex. Kinda seems like there is some unresolved issue fueling the misogyny, too. :(
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by Guest » Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:49 am
[QUOTE=Smirks;35634]I also disagree with this. When prostitution was a common thing, women (including those NOT in the prostitution industry) were considered more like objects than compatible, personable life partners like you describe. They just had duties beyond sex...like doing the damn dishes! haha
I know this is merely your perception, and your perception has been jaded by events here and there, but it seems a little too extreme to be a healthy outlook on the opposite sex. Kinda seems like there is some unresolved issue fueling the misogyny, too. :([/QUOTE]
Prostitution was a common institution as recently as 70 - 80 years ago. Both of my grandfathers lost their virginity to a prostitute, as did all of their brothers. My dad was offered a prostitute when he was 14, I think, but my grandmother found out and wouldn't let him go.
In truth, pop culture has really ingrained in our minds that women were treated incredibily poorly before the Sexual Revolution and Woman's Sufferage Movements. But, I contend that this is not the truth. Sure, women were viewed as property, but the sense of ownership does something to a person. If you think you own something, you tend to care for it because it has value to you. Were there examples of poor treatment? Sure. But, it wasn't nearly as prevalent as today's society wants us to believe (as humans we tend to think that we're more enlightened as a race than we were a 1,000 years before...this is, generally, not the truth).
Take the rule of thumb farce. The rule of thumb was sold to millions of people as having been orginiated from a law that said a husband could beat his wife with a stick that was no thicker than his thumb. But, no such law ever existed. Quote from Wiki:
[COLOR=red]It is often claimed that the term originally referred to a law that limited the maximum thickness of a stick with which it was permissible for a man to [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence"][COLOR=red]beat his wife[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red], but this has been discredited.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb#cite_note-europrofem.org-0"][1][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb#cite_note-Sommers1994-2"][3][/URL] British [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law"][COLOR=red]common law[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red] before the reign of [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_England"][COLOR=red]Charles II[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red] permitted a man to give his wife "moderate correction", but no "rule of thumb" (whether called by this name or not) has ever been the law in England.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb#cite_note-5"][6][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb#cite_note-Straight_Dope-6"][7][/URL] Such "moderate correction" specifically excluded beatings, only allowing the husband to confine a wife to the household.[/COLOR]
Sure, the husband could discipline a woman, but to even think for a moment that all men viewed women as property is just totally wrong. And, even if they did, why is that such a bad thing? Remember you tend to care for your property.
Instead, it was more of a partnership. You married a woman that could nuture you and your children, that could work in the home, and that was compatible with you. That's what the norm was. And, like it or not, prostitution was a huge part of that so that sex could be taken out of the equation when determining which woman you wished to marry and have children with.
My grandparents didn't have sex until marriage. The reason, besides social norms and religious pressures, was because the man was, most likely, getting periodic sex from a prostitute. Both of my grandfathers hired prostitutes while they were courting my grandmothers. It was understood and normal. And, all of my grandfathers' brothers did the same exact thing.
My theory is that men are miserable in marriages because they marry a woman for the wrong reasons. They get blinded by sex and compromise on the important things that drive compatibility in a relationship. My grandparents had no such dynamic. They made their decision based on factors more important than sex, and, as such, both marriages lasted 50+ years. And, both couples were very much in love with each other until they day they died. The same was true of their siblings, with one or two rare exceptions.
My point is that the decline of prostitution in our society is making it much more difficult for men to simultaneously fulfill our carnal desires WHILE finding a truly compatible mate.
Not only that, but it's also preventing unskilled women from earning higher wages than they currently do...it's the oldest profession, and one of the highest paid for women.
I know this is merely your perception, and your perception has been jaded by events here and there, but it seems a little too extreme to be a healthy outlook on the opposite sex. Kinda seems like there is some unresolved issue fueling the misogyny, too. :([/QUOTE]
Prostitution was a common institution as recently as 70 - 80 years ago. Both of my grandfathers lost their virginity to a prostitute, as did all of their brothers. My dad was offered a prostitute when he was 14, I think, but my grandmother found out and wouldn't let him go.
In truth, pop culture has really ingrained in our minds that women were treated incredibily poorly before the Sexual Revolution and Woman's Sufferage Movements. But, I contend that this is not the truth. Sure, women were viewed as property, but the sense of ownership does something to a person. If you think you own something, you tend to care for it because it has value to you. Were there examples of poor treatment? Sure. But, it wasn't nearly as prevalent as today's society wants us to believe (as humans we tend to think that we're more enlightened as a race than we were a 1,000 years before...this is, generally, not the truth).
Take the rule of thumb farce. The rule of thumb was sold to millions of people as having been orginiated from a law that said a husband could beat his wife with a stick that was no thicker than his thumb. But, no such law ever existed. Quote from Wiki:
[COLOR=red]It is often claimed that the term originally referred to a law that limited the maximum thickness of a stick with which it was permissible for a man to [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence"][COLOR=red]beat his wife[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red], but this has been discredited.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb#cite_note-europrofem.org-0"][1][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb#cite_note-Sommers1994-2"][3][/URL] British [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law"][COLOR=red]common law[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red] before the reign of [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_England"][COLOR=red]Charles II[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red] permitted a man to give his wife "moderate correction", but no "rule of thumb" (whether called by this name or not) has ever been the law in England.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb#cite_note-5"][6][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb#cite_note-Straight_Dope-6"][7][/URL] Such "moderate correction" specifically excluded beatings, only allowing the husband to confine a wife to the household.[/COLOR]
Sure, the husband could discipline a woman, but to even think for a moment that all men viewed women as property is just totally wrong. And, even if they did, why is that such a bad thing? Remember you tend to care for your property.
Instead, it was more of a partnership. You married a woman that could nuture you and your children, that could work in the home, and that was compatible with you. That's what the norm was. And, like it or not, prostitution was a huge part of that so that sex could be taken out of the equation when determining which woman you wished to marry and have children with.
My grandparents didn't have sex until marriage. The reason, besides social norms and religious pressures, was because the man was, most likely, getting periodic sex from a prostitute. Both of my grandfathers hired prostitutes while they were courting my grandmothers. It was understood and normal. And, all of my grandfathers' brothers did the same exact thing.
My theory is that men are miserable in marriages because they marry a woman for the wrong reasons. They get blinded by sex and compromise on the important things that drive compatibility in a relationship. My grandparents had no such dynamic. They made their decision based on factors more important than sex, and, as such, both marriages lasted 50+ years. And, both couples were very much in love with each other until they day they died. The same was true of their siblings, with one or two rare exceptions.
My point is that the decline of prostitution in our society is making it much more difficult for men to simultaneously fulfill our carnal desires WHILE finding a truly compatible mate.
Not only that, but it's also preventing unskilled women from earning higher wages than they currently do...it's the oldest profession, and one of the highest paid for women.
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by Guest » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:17 pm
[QUOTE=Smirks;35634]I know this is merely your perception, and your perception has been jaded by events here and there, but it seems a little too extreme to be a healthy outlook on the opposite sex. Kinda seems like there is some unresolved issue fueling the misogyny, too. :([/QUOTE]
As long as I have been in this community, this has been a recurring theme. These topics of women trapping men by getting pregnant, women getting unfair advantages, women being favored by the law, women falsely accusing men of rape, and on and on, keep coming up.
My personal feeling is that misogyny is hindrance for a PUA. I understand why it might be common among PUAs, but I hope PUAs would actually work toward having healthier relationships with women, lots of them, rather than treating them like an enemy.
I think it's ironic that the one person who showed a genuine love for women was accused of being gay (jokingly, I know, but it's still ironic and that is, of course, why it was funny).
This author does appear to be a no-nonsense man. I agree with a lot of what he says. But I wouldn't behave like him. He seems defeated to me. He's always complaining. It's good that there is a voice of reason, someone is speaking some sense. I'm also glad it's not me. I like a little nonsense from time to time, which is why I love women.
As for this particular article, isn't it great that PUAs have all this shit figured out? We don't have to complain about this garbage. We're the ones making them so attracted that they start to pull all the strings to convince us to fuck them. We don't have to wine and dine them. We don't have to ply them with alcohol. We know that a woman expects to receive all these privileges, to be put on a pedestal, and then we make her earn our attention. And that makes her even more attracted. What a concept!
As long as I have been in this community, this has been a recurring theme. These topics of women trapping men by getting pregnant, women getting unfair advantages, women being favored by the law, women falsely accusing men of rape, and on and on, keep coming up.
My personal feeling is that misogyny is hindrance for a PUA. I understand why it might be common among PUAs, but I hope PUAs would actually work toward having healthier relationships with women, lots of them, rather than treating them like an enemy.
I think it's ironic that the one person who showed a genuine love for women was accused of being gay (jokingly, I know, but it's still ironic and that is, of course, why it was funny).
This author does appear to be a no-nonsense man. I agree with a lot of what he says. But I wouldn't behave like him. He seems defeated to me. He's always complaining. It's good that there is a voice of reason, someone is speaking some sense. I'm also glad it's not me. I like a little nonsense from time to time, which is why I love women.
As for this particular article, isn't it great that PUAs have all this shit figured out? We don't have to complain about this garbage. We're the ones making them so attracted that they start to pull all the strings to convince us to fuck them. We don't have to wine and dine them. We don't have to ply them with alcohol. We know that a woman expects to receive all these privileges, to be put on a pedestal, and then we make her earn our attention. And that makes her even more attracted. What a concept!
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