So tonight was my night to break through approach anxiety. I failed. I'm writing this as soon as I get home so that the details are fresh in my mind. I went alone as I do not have a group to sarge with.
Went to one club locally called Outskirts. They play country music and alot of the local college hotties go there. I have a bit of liquid courage, a shot of Tequila and 3 Shiner Bocks. I couldn't bring myself to approach within three seconds of seeing the 2 set (HB5 maybe both of them). I came in with low energy (bad) and then openned with GummyBears vs Gummy Worms. This has worked awesome in my day game, and got a laugh immediately from both in set. Then I proceeded to tell a lame story about how I do IT support for the club, which is true, but not part of my routine stack. My mind went blank. The group blew me out and I ejected instead of hanging around.
Left that club after the initial failure, it didn't sting, but I just wasn't feeling it in the country setting. Went to another club/bar called Old Town. They had a live band, and again I didn't approach sets immediately. Set and listened to the music a bit, which was ok, then went walking the club and was approached by this HB6 approaches and tells me her friend wants my phone number. I failed the shit test by asking for her to take me to her friend instead of gaming her right there. This is the last time I will drink while attempting to sarge as it messes with my logic and lock on. So I show up in front of her friend and she immediately tells me she has a boyfriend , umm clue in!!!!. Then I run the palm reading and then drop it thing that I read on this forum. FAIL!! Neither of them want me to tell them what their palms say. Ejected shortly there after. Got blown out.
Left that club. I did a total of one approach and then got approached and blew it. I will keep trying to go out at night. This was my first nightgame attempt. I am okay with day game, in fact much better at it, but shit, I am trying to figure out what I did wrong with the second set that I got blown out so bad.
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FR: 3/20/10 Traxxus - Night Game
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by Guest » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:17 am
Great field report. You used words like "fail" and "blew it," but I think you did great. You left the house, went where there are women, and got in set twice. That's hard to do when you don't have a wing. I admire that.
They call this a "game," because you're supposed to try these things out for fun. It's called a "field report" because you're supposed to go out and experiment and report your results so you and others can learn from it. That's what you're doing, and even if it doesn't feel like it, you're succeeding. For example, you learned that your energy level is important and you reported that finding.
I wouldn't call the HB6 approaching you for her friend a shit test. I think it was just an excuse for her to open you. I bet that's the equivalent of the "who lies more" opener for her. I'm going to take a guess that her friend is more attractive than she is. I have found that when the less attractive friend is more outgoing, she uses her friends' attractiveness to pull men into set. That's pretty common. I once had this big, fat UGG3.5 pull me into set and game me in front of her three HB7+ friends. She actually stated straight out that she has attractive friends and the way to them is through her. She said that right in front of them. So you're right, you should have ignored her opener and gamed her. You get in with her, and you can tell her to introduce you to her friend later so it doesn't seem like you're just trying to get to her friend.
I don't know what palm reading routine you read on here, but I don't do things like palm reading right away. I usually wait until I've isolated a target. Then you can get into a lower energy level, get into a frame that you're learning about her, get some kino, etc. It's more of a comfort routine. However, if you grab her hand, look at her palm, and do this little routine:
PUA: Oh my god, I can't talk to you! (throw hand away)
HB: What? What does my palm say?
PUA: Ok, let me see it again. Yep... You have... a huge... dork line!
Then it's an attraction routine. Every girl will say that she's a dork (and she thinks she's the only one).
I wonder, do you ask the set how they all know each other? That's the first thing you should do when you get stuck. If they look at each other before answering, you can do the best friends test. Think about questions like the following:
How do you all know each other?
What are you guys celebrating?
Are you all from around here?
Who's the responsible one of this group and who's the trouble-maker?
Basically any question that will spawn off other conversational threads or possibly make you more integrated with the group. For example, whatever they say they're celebrating, even if it's because it's Thursday, you can make a toast to Thursday or whatever.
I also wonder if there are other things at play in these two sets. For example, did you approach a seated set and you were standing? Were they standing with their backs against the wall and you were facing them? These are things that can blow you out and it has nothing to do with your routines.
They call this a "game," because you're supposed to try these things out for fun. It's called a "field report" because you're supposed to go out and experiment and report your results so you and others can learn from it. That's what you're doing, and even if it doesn't feel like it, you're succeeding. For example, you learned that your energy level is important and you reported that finding.
I wouldn't call the HB6 approaching you for her friend a shit test. I think it was just an excuse for her to open you. I bet that's the equivalent of the "who lies more" opener for her. I'm going to take a guess that her friend is more attractive than she is. I have found that when the less attractive friend is more outgoing, she uses her friends' attractiveness to pull men into set. That's pretty common. I once had this big, fat UGG3.5 pull me into set and game me in front of her three HB7+ friends. She actually stated straight out that she has attractive friends and the way to them is through her. She said that right in front of them. So you're right, you should have ignored her opener and gamed her. You get in with her, and you can tell her to introduce you to her friend later so it doesn't seem like you're just trying to get to her friend.
I don't know what palm reading routine you read on here, but I don't do things like palm reading right away. I usually wait until I've isolated a target. Then you can get into a lower energy level, get into a frame that you're learning about her, get some kino, etc. It's more of a comfort routine. However, if you grab her hand, look at her palm, and do this little routine:
PUA: Oh my god, I can't talk to you! (throw hand away)
HB: What? What does my palm say?
PUA: Ok, let me see it again. Yep... You have... a huge... dork line!
Then it's an attraction routine. Every girl will say that she's a dork (and she thinks she's the only one).
I wonder, do you ask the set how they all know each other? That's the first thing you should do when you get stuck. If they look at each other before answering, you can do the best friends test. Think about questions like the following:
How do you all know each other?
What are you guys celebrating?
Are you all from around here?
Who's the responsible one of this group and who's the trouble-maker?
Basically any question that will spawn off other conversational threads or possibly make you more integrated with the group. For example, whatever they say they're celebrating, even if it's because it's Thursday, you can make a toast to Thursday or whatever.
I also wonder if there are other things at play in these two sets. For example, did you approach a seated set and you were standing? Were they standing with their backs against the wall and you were facing them? These are things that can blow you out and it has nothing to do with your routines.
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by Guest » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:00 pm
Thank you for the words of encouragement. So in analysis, and with a little bit clearer of a head, I would mark last night up as a success.
So the first set at Outskirts, I know that I did not execute properly. They where both standing and I did the walk past then over the shoulder approach. Then executed GBvs.GWs. They laughed and then I followed up with nothing basically. They were both standing, along a wall and so was I. I know what I did wrong here, I didn't stick to my routine stack in order to accomplish getting the interaction going. I'll know better next time.
For the second set, you are absolutely right. The seated chick was a HB 7. They were seated against a wall, I and the chick who grabbed me where standing. Since they openned me, I asked how they all knew each other. Apparently those braincells died during the night because I do not remember the reply. I then went into the exact routine you wrote about.
PUA: Look briefly at woman's palm.... Sorry, I can't tell you what it says... I don't know you well enough....
In this case, they looked at me like I had grown a third eye. They didn't ask or push me for what it meant. Which is what I would have expected to happen. I think more comfort needs to be built here before that routine is run.
After that, I didn't ask any further questions, the interaction was over for the most part, and I ejected.
Lessons Learned: Build more comfort before running any routine where they are going to be actively required to physically participate. Ask questions that will spawn conversation threads that I can snag onto. I also think the set positioning was just BAD. I don't know how much that would be mitigated by them trying to pull me in set.
So the first set at Outskirts, I know that I did not execute properly. They where both standing and I did the walk past then over the shoulder approach. Then executed GBvs.GWs. They laughed and then I followed up with nothing basically. They were both standing, along a wall and so was I. I know what I did wrong here, I didn't stick to my routine stack in order to accomplish getting the interaction going. I'll know better next time.
For the second set, you are absolutely right. The seated chick was a HB 7. They were seated against a wall, I and the chick who grabbed me where standing. Since they openned me, I asked how they all knew each other. Apparently those braincells died during the night because I do not remember the reply. I then went into the exact routine you wrote about.
PUA: Look briefly at woman's palm.... Sorry, I can't tell you what it says... I don't know you well enough....
In this case, they looked at me like I had grown a third eye. They didn't ask or push me for what it meant. Which is what I would have expected to happen. I think more comfort needs to be built here before that routine is run.
After that, I didn't ask any further questions, the interaction was over for the most part, and I ejected.
Lessons Learned: Build more comfort before running any routine where they are going to be actively required to physically participate. Ask questions that will spawn conversation threads that I can snag onto. I also think the set positioning was just BAD. I don't know how much that would be mitigated by them trying to pull me in set.
- Guest
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