3 types of women ?

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I found this post on another fourm and wanted to see what you guys think

Introduction:
(Why am I writing this post?)
Note: This isn’t the post with the specifics. The second post down is

So, after reading the posts about the nature of women, and seeing things said like “women have changed” and “it’s just the nature of women to cheat and manipulate and leave one guy for another”, etc – I’ve felt an urge to comment on these views. It’s not so much that I feel that these things are totally wrong, but that I know they aren’t totally true.
Some of the topics that we’ve had on the forum in the past couple of weeks have brought back to my memory some ideas that I’ve mostly ignored for a long time; the thread about my idea of what causes one-itis, the thread about today’s new woman, and the thread about the nature of woman are the ones that I’m talking about. To be honest, I also saw this thread on the mASF off- topic forum (I’ll post the link shortly)

The first book I read about seduction was Arthur Gordon’s book “How to Get All the Girls You Want” In his book he talks about his theory that all women are NOT the same. According to Gordon, there are 3 basic types of women. When I use the phrase “types of women” I’m talking about relationship styles/bottom line necessity for a relationship.
The three types are Ho, Freak, and Good girl. Some people may not like the terminology, but it’s pretty straight forward and I don’t personally have an issue with it. If you want to debate about the terminology with somebody, or if you just want to hear some guys discuss the topical in general, here’s a thread on that forum:
http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion ... stTopic=59
I won’t defend or attack the chosen words. However, I will explain them

Gordon says that he came up with his theory through his own “study, research, and examination”. He went to school a school in which he studied the Bible, so there is some biblical influence in some areas of his book. In this instance, he saw examples in the bible that influenced his ideas: the Harlot, the Strange Woman (or adulteress), and the Virtuous Woman.

This is all common information on mASF now, after a poster named PlayerSupreme posted about it a few years ago. I would just post a link to his post, but I read the book myself, a few times, and I’d be a little embarrassed to link to a post that’s written in the way that his is and presenting it to such a sophisticated, gentlemanly, and in most cases - scholarly crowd as yourselves (save for a couple of you… not naming any names ).

So, I’ll likely just try to summarize Gordon’s description of each type and give an example or two for each. Think about it for awhile if it doesn’t make sense or seems like it’s “stereotyping” women.

I could have just written this stuff off of my own memory because now I “just know it” after reading this book for the first time in November of 2001 (feels like oh-so-long ago *sigh*) – but I didn’t want to miss anything important and I wanted to give details straight from the source.

So, the following is my effort. Read it and take it to heart, reflect on your past experience and look at them in a new light, look for a way to fit this into your game (maybe qualifying?), decide it’s too long and you aren’t gonna read it, think it’s horseshit and a bunch of crackpot ideas. Somebody’ll get something from it.

First of all:
Gordon states that there are three BASIC TYPES. Any given woman can have characteristics of all three types. For example, a girl may outwardly appear to be a Good girl, but truly be a freak. A girl could be a Good girl, but have the appearance and/or give the impression that she is a Freak. Some girls may be a combination of a Freak and a Ho.
However, each woman is of one true type underneath it all.

They are all women, so they all have some things in common. However, as Gordon states, “All German Shepherds are dogs, but not all dogs are German Shepherds.”
(This is not a comparison of women to dogs, not on my part – can’t speak for A. Gordon.)

The idea is that once you know what a girl’s basic type is, you have the basis of how you should interact with her in order to seduce/interact with her. What works on a Gold Digger is not what works on a Good girl, and vice versa.
A well respected and archived poster, Zarathustra_fi aka Franco, on mASF talks a lot about how he’s used the Three Types of Women theory to appeal to girls of different types in different ways; at least from my understanding, he does. I don’t read there much anymore, but I’ve seen some of his posts where he talked about this, so he may be a good person to look to if you need to find examples of how to interact.

The same behavior from three different women could have three different motives.
For example, say you’re dating/involved with a woman who is flirtatious…
A Ho:
Could have the idea of making some money.

A Freak:
Could be doing it to “play” and affirm her desirability

A Good girl:
May be trying to arouse jealousy in you which will reassure her that you care for her.


If you’re the one being flirted with:

Mistaking a Good girl for a Freak can be a mistake as you’ll likely reach line that she’s not willing to cross with you.

You need to figure out a woman’s basic type AS SOON as you realize that you MIGHT be interested in her. You are vulnerable when your guard is down – so you need to evaluate the girl early on before your judgment gets clouded. Just because a girl “seems” to be a certain way doesn’t mean that you should neglect defining what her basic type is.

The Ho (also referred to as a Gold Digger)
• This term is commonly used for hookers on the street. They are hoes, but there are also women who are NOT so obvious that you’re getting sex in exchange for material gain
• The basic definition is a woman who will have sex or enter a relationship with a man in exchange for money or some other form of material gain
• Sometimes the thing being gained is status: “A lot of high school cheerleaders/girls who won’t date any guy, no matter how much personality he has, if he isn’t of high enough status - are hoes in training”
• Some of them gain sexual pleasure from being with the men, and some don’t.
• There’s a certain lack of conscience in this kind of behavior and this personality type
• Some do it not just for money, but also to feel accepted by men.
• Gordon refers to Hoes as being straight-forward about what they require,
- He refers to women who hide their motives as Gold Diggers
- Use their lures and charm, with malice, to gain access to a man’s money or lifestyle
- Hard for most men to resist.
- She won’t come right out and say “I’m a ho”
- Some ways to test a woman to see if she’s this type are to
1. Ask her about past relations to see where she’s coming from
2. Suggest that things won’t be as good for you in the future financially and pay attention to her response.
3. Trust your intuitions if you feel that she is this type.
• This is the least desirable type of woman
• Gordon basically says with this type the basic idea is to show them respect and give them money – but know the costs up front. (Else you could end up like our friend, Joderias, who was a gift that kept on giving to a hooker in S. America
http://daviddeangelo.proboards106.com/i ... 1163109710 ).
• Mrsex4uNYC has a huge archive of posts on mASF and he talks about ways to interact with gold diggers to your benefit.
- Basically, if you were ever going to brag or lie about money and possessions that you do or don’t (will or won’t) have, this would be the type of woman to do it with.
Also, it’s good to note that a lot of Hoes started off as Good girls, but possibly became disillusioned with love in some way.
(All of the above from “How to Get All the Girls You Want” by Arthur Gordon, pages 39-44)

Comments:
I guess they can make good "trophy" wives if you're willing to trade true love in for a woman who's maybe socially savy, hip to the latest fashions, extremely good looking, etc. (not that having those characteristics "means" that a woman is this type).
A true ho is not likely to cheat on her husband if it will endanger her relationship...
... with his Money and Lifestyle $$$

The Freak

“Ah, yes... the Freak. Of the three types of women, this is the one to play and have fun with (hoes you pay with, good girls you stay with). And nowadays, television and media advertising have combined to turn the scene into a veritable freak factory! Young girls, girls and women are packaged, manufactured and sold a carefree, loose, aggressive attitude toward casual sex from the time they can play with Barbie. And when you learn how to be their Ken, you'll have all the freaks you can handle” (page 44).

The above relates to what someone mentioned in one of the threads about women of today (at least here in the U.S.) acting like men.

• Most Freaks have a poor relationship with their father or significant male figure in their life – and as a result use flirting and dressing suggestively to reaffirm their worth
• They will often flirt, tease, and/or sleep with men to gain validation of their desirability
- This means that a girl who is a freak can innocently behave in a way that’s borderline come-on towards other guys and give them and You the impression that if the guy plays his cards right – that he can score with her.
--For this reason, it can be rough to be in a committed relationship with a freak as jealousy may become an issue.
• Girls who are prick teases are freaks.
• They enjoy the NEW and EXCITING! (usually of the sexual brand)
- Thus they can become bored with some relationships once the freshness and newness ware off.
- May feel a need to “upgrade” to another guy once they feel that they have a particular guy “in the bag”.
- Being a challenge is very effective with this type. In fact, it seems that MOST of the pickup techniques are geared towards this ONE type of woman!
• They enjoy “falling in love” and may even allow a guy to fall in love with them so that they can have lots of fun planning a wedding.
• Some of them try to keep it a secret (this can cause problems for a guy who is unaware of her true nature)
- She may seem geeky, she may seem innocent, etc. on the SURFACE
- What I’ve personally found is that some women who are freaks will create rules for how far they’ll go with guys so that they won’t seem (or feel?) like a freak (Anti Slut Defense probably is closely connected to this).
• A lot of them will run if they feel you are trying to “tie them down” – but you CAN hook these girls if you play the game right (probably just run good PUA game and don’t get your feelings too involved)
- BUT: “Play at yo’ own risk!”
• According to Gordon, it’s almost impossible to move too fast with a freak. He says that even if she stops your physical advances, she may feel flattered that she her desirability made you lose control – and will enjoy trying to keep you under control.
• Sometimes they can act like hoes, but they don’t like impersonal sex. So they may do sexual things that gain money such as stripping, posing nude, maybe porn in some cases (?), etc.
• They often enjoy the challenge of making men who are unavailable to them become available
- This is proof of her desirability because she was able to get a man who should have been off limits or unavailable (maybe this is why some girls are gone in 60 seconds after a guy tells them he likes them…?)
- Keep the above bullet in mind when making relationship decisions, because, say you have a girlfriend and a girl knows this and pursues you anyway until you eventually start an affair with her. If you dump your girlfriend for her, chances are SHE’LL (the new freak girl) leave YOU – because you aren’t the same challenge anymore.
• According to Gordon, a lot of freaks begin to want to settle down and get married – and they almost always choose a chump.
• These girls are not the type of girl that you can trust your heart with (Reread the above section if you don’t understand why).
- If you try to go beyond the fun that freaks love to have and try to get too deep emotionally, you’ll likely get your heart broken AND lose all of the fun you had and could have in the future with the girl.
• Arthur Gordon has a girlfriend who he features pictures of on his website (howtogetgirls.com – No I’m not in cahoots with him). In his second book “How to Get All the Girls You Want Book II” – Gordon talks about his strategy for having relationships with freaks (without getting the short end of the stick). Once in a coaching email, he told me that he’s maintained his (mostly) Freak girlfriend by remaining a man who she still has to prove herself to, even after (five years at that point – like 4 years ago).
(Pages 44-46)
They aren't the type you should give your heart to. If you want a relationship with one, be careful and keep your game tight.

You’ve been warned…

Good Girls

These are the types of girls that you can have a deep relationship with and the Basic type of girl that you would probably want to marry (granted her overall personality, looks, and whatever other important details about her are pleasing to you).

Arthur Gordon reads a biblical quote about the “virtuous woman” and explains, on pages 48-49, some of the qualities of a “Quality” Good girl.
• She has her own brain
• She keeps her man happy in bed
• She takes good care of her family (dealing in the “market place” – etc).
• Dresses appealingly
• Has a pleasing personality
• May have male friends, that she only has good clean fun with
• Isn’t lazy
• Etc.

Of course this is like an ideal good girl. Surely there are lazy and unintelligent good girls – but who wants a relationship with a person who lacks depth and ambition?

Gordon goes on to say that the way to keep this type of woman happy (when you’re already in a relationship) is sincere praise and appreciation. He also says that ANY woman is capable of cheating IF she is unfulfilled emotionally or sexually.

What’s different about a good girl is that she isn’t motivated by getting money from a man, or with getting sexual validation of her desirability from men in general. Sure, she may be impressed by a rich man’s wealth, or feel a need to feel desirable – BUT these things aren’t the bottom line of what she wants out of a relationship with a man. Love is.

She may dress like a freak, or like name brand handbags, but those things are just a mix of the other types.

Gordon suggests that it’s important to know a woman’s basic type EARLY on in your knowing her. Say you just ran through your game and got an F-close on the first “date”… Then you and the girl continue to see each other. You really are starting to like this girl, but then again – she slept with you the first date. You didn’t take time to figure out what her type was, so how do you know if she’s someone who is good for a deep relationship, or really a freak?

Should have figured that out in the first place, BEFORE your feelings took over.

ALSO:
Gordon suggests that if you want to play the game (have multiple girls) then it’s best that you find a Good girl who you care for. He suggests that each man views his warm, romantic love in a “lock box”. He uses the metaphor of a lock box because people selling a house put the key to a for-sale house in a box and only told trusted people where the key could be found. If you find a good girl who really does it for you and you AREN’T currently with another good girl (because that could end up hurting girls who deeply care about you and had only good intentions for you) – then it’s OK to give her the key to SLOWLY turn the key to your “lock box” (which has your heart in it).

Then, when dealing with the freaks, things are in perspective (after knowing about the 3 types) that the freaks are just out to have fun – and you won’t get too wrapped up in them – because you already have a girl you care for. He insists that this is a key to top gamesmanship.

We DO have feelings (some of us more than others) and we naturally have emotional needs in a romantic sense. Even if you want to be with a bunch of girls, it could be useful to have a relationship with a good girl for your overall emotional well-being.

So remember, not all girls are the same.
Wanna know what women want? First consider what type of woman you’re talking about.