Lessons in Love

[Guest]

Good points, here's my take on it.

Women in a relationship don't want you to do the dishes, they want you to WANT to do the dishes.

Similarly, the reason a "bad boy" is attractive isn't because he's bad, it's because he's doing what he wants to do.

The big turn-off for any woman, no matter how long they've been with you, is someone who doesn't act in accordance with his feelings. The guy who wants to rip her clothes off but instead opens the door for her and buys her flowers. The middle aged man who buys a harley to prove his manhood.

The remedy? Be yourself man. In other words, if you only do one thing in life, do this - KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT. Not what you think you want, what you actually want. When you know that, then follow your heart.

That's the sexiest thing in the world to a woman.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Prodigy;34967]Anyways, I would LOVE to take this course or possibly set up some type of discussion with the class. Several of the lair guys could go and debate what really is the truth...[/QUOTE]



That is a bad ass idea Prodigy.

I just sent the prof an e-mail...

[Guest]

Here was the good 'ole professor's response, exactly what I figured:

[COLOR=red]Bull Run,
I appreciate you sharing information with me regarding alternate ways of approaching relationships. The course I teach is constructed around the academic research regarding dating, mate selection, relationships, etc. While I am aware other perspectives and approaches exist regarding these topics, the content of the course sticks closely to existing academic research. Information regarding PUAs have not been my academic focus, therefore, I am not currently aware of any academic research that specifically addresses it nor was I able to locate any academic research that addresses it and therefore will likely not include it in this particular course at this time.
Thank you again for the information.
Jennifer Acker, MS, CCLS[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black]Any one aware of any academic research on PUAs and The Community? I told her that she should, at the very least, check out our Lair to see exactly how scientific we do become.[/COLOR]

I plan on crafting a response to her e-mail, but, quite frankly, I'm not sure there's any place to go with her response. Maybe we point out some of the more popular books that we read that are not directly related to PUA. Such as The Red Queen and Sperm Wars.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

[Guest]

Damn bull run! You are the Fucking man!

What a generic response she gave though.

As far as academic evidence of the community... there isn't any "academic evidence" but everything this community teaches is educational. I don't think it'd be a good idea to start throwing the mystery method at her. What about telling her to read the game? That seems to be the general starting point for everyone. Maybe send her a copy of double your dating by david deangelo? He seems more professional and credible than mystery or at least I think the public outside the community would conclude that.

Maybe we could direct her to this post specifically? Maybe that's a bad idea? lol

This is an extremely interesting thread!

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Bull Run;34999]
[COLOR=black]Any one aware of any academic research on PUAs and The Community? I told her that she should, at the very least, check out our Lair to see exactly how scientific we do become.[/COLOR]

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Closest thing I know is:[URL="https://webspace.utexas.edu/ejc329/ElanaCliftThesis.pdf"] https://webspace.utexas.edu/ejc329/ElanaCliftThesis.pdf[/URL]

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Bull Run;34999]Here was the good 'ole professor's response, exactly what I figured:

[COLOR=red]Bull Run,
I appreciate you sharing information with me regarding alternate ways of approaching relationships. The course I teach is constructed around the academic research regarding dating, mate selection, relationships, etc. While I am aware other perspectives and approaches exist regarding these topics, the content of the course sticks closely to existing academic research. Information regarding PUAs have not been my academic focus, therefore, I am not currently aware of any academic research that specifically addresses it nor was I able to locate any academic research that addresses it and therefore will likely not include it in this particular course at this time.
Thank you again for the information.
Jennifer Acker, MS, CCLS[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]Any one aware of any academic research on PUAs and The Community? I told her that she should, at the very least, check out our Lair to see exactly how scientific we do become.[/COLOR]

I plan on crafting a response to her e-mail, but, quite frankly, I'm not sure there's any place to go with her response. Maybe we point out some of the more popular books that we read that are not directly related to PUA. Such as The Red Queen and Sperm Wars.

Thoughts? Suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Her response is the exact reason why I hate shitty ass universities. Sorry if I offend you but Yes, UNT is a shitty univ. The school I went to UTD also sucks balls. The professors only know how to teach from a textbook. They have no idea of the real world or have any experience to call from either.

If I ever have kids and they gain entry to Harvard or Wharton you can bet I will mortgage my house to send them there.

I wouldn't waste another second trying to convince this lady. She is set in her ways and has no care in the world to change or bring in new material. Even if it meant it would help the students, she doesn't care. It would be too hard for her small brain to comprehend.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=playercool;35006]

I wouldn't waste another second trying to convince this lady. She is set in her ways and has no care in the world to change or bring in new material. Even if it meant it would help the students, she doesn't care. It would be too hard for her small brain to comprehend.[/QUOTE]

i agree with PC completely. i dont think she's at all interested in hearing about theory (books she's teaching with) vs. practice (what PUA's do in field).

many of the tactics we utilize, such as the neg or being alpha, is science based. its just unfortunate that there is no credible scientific research or published articles that discuss the science behind it. unfortunately, im not sure if the red queen would be "academic" enough for her, since she CLEARLY has a Masters and all..:rolleyes:

BR, do you mind sharing the email you sent to her?

[Guest]

Hate to tell you this bro, but 99% of all universities are going to be narrow minded and academia based much like this professor. Harvard, Yale, Wharton School of Business, etc. Doesn't matter. They're all narrow minded...

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Bull Run;35008]Hate to tell you this bro, but 99% of all universities are going to be narrow minded and academia based much like this professor. Harvard, Yale, Wharton School of Business, etc. Doesn't matter. They're all narrow minded...[/QUOTE]

Indeed. This Prof. didn't actually [I]say[/I] anything in her response.

I can honestly say I did not learn a thing in College. It was a waste of my time that only helped to put me in debt. PC is right, UNT is a joke.

I maintain you can learn more completely on your own for a year than you can an entire 4 year university program. People skills are infinitely more important then any technical skill you can learn in any school, anywhere.

Typically anyone with a profession that requires excessive schooling doesn't actually learn anything. They parrot everything that have been taught and do not actively search for the truth, or anything that would challenge their view. Doctors, for example.

I would prefer my children not waste their time on excessive schooling when the world is at their fingertips and they could do some real learning. Unless, or course, they wanted to go to school after becoming bored with the homeschooling they receive on the family compound in rural Idaho.

Note: I'm not sure I know anyone who used their degree to work in a career that they absolutely love. Most of them hate their jobs, and work in some type of cancerous corporate environment. If your degree isn't a way for you to do something you love to do, then you shouldn't do it.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Bull Run;35008]Hate to tell you this bro, but 99% of all universities are going to be narrow minded and academia based much like this professor. Harvard, Yale, Wharton School of Business, etc. Doesn't matter. They're all narrow minded...[/QUOTE]

Gotta disagree on this one. The professors have actual real world experience. Most of the profs are rich before they even begin to teach. They did not set out to be career professors. I am speaking mainly in the Business sector not necessarily the science sector on this.

They may still teach on a rigid guideline but at least they can bring experience to the discussion. This is huge in teaching someone the points of business. You can't learn how to run a business from a book. You can only learn from doing. If the teacher hasn't done before then you will learn absolutely NOTHING.