Sticking point: depression

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I can relate with you, Fuzz, as I've been in pretty much the same situation.

First step in picking yourself back up is going to be letting go of the past. If your ex keeps popping up at the places you frequent...find new places. She knows you go there, and that's why she does too. It makes her feel a little bit better about herself knowing she still has an effect on you...and from the way you said it ruins your night, it's probably blatantly obvious to everyone in the room. Letting go is the 1st step to getting over your depression.

Like Prod said, you're gonna need to get a control on your drinking. Alcohol lowers serotonin and norepinephrine levels...and when depressed, these are already pretty damn low. When you go out (to a new bar!), limit yourself to like a drink an hour or something. If you finish your drink before it's time to get the next one, order a water with lime. I do this because I feel like I need to have a drink in my hands at all times...

If you're burned out on going out, talking to girls, etc......then take a break. Simple as that. I know you're probably in a routine that involved going out on the weekends, but why continue if you're not enjoying it? A small break from it can do wonders for your mood. If you take long enough break, you'll get that hunger back...the hunger to tackle that club full of hot girls like a predator to it's prey.

Don't be afraid to seek professional help with this, either. I was doing all I could to manage my depression and similar emotional issues, but it wasn't enough. Finally, family convinced me to seek help. Turned out that I had more than depression. I'm also manic bi-polar...if you can't do it on your own, it's worth checking in to...

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Fuzz...

Hit the gym and hit it hardcore!!!!

Get those natural endorphins flowing again. I know, for me at least, that when I've feeling down I force my ass to the gym and work out like a mad man. Once I've taken out all of my aggressions at the gym, I feel like a new man.

The hardest part about hitting up the gym is actually fucking going. Working out, is so easy. It's just getting there that's the hardest part.

Working out will make you feel better, look better, improve your confidence, and women LIKE MUSCLES!!!

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I've been in your shoes. After "the one" left back in January, 2000, ten fucking years ago holy shit, I was severely depressed for about 8 years. then I realized that it took effort to get out of depression. Several people on this forum helped me leave the house and made me understand that its natural to do the things I replaced with depression.

the steps I think are important in hindsight, in no order:
get over girls treating you poorly
get over yourself getting treated poorly
choose involvement in a hobby that you have control over (lifting, motorsports, darts, golf, work)
don't compromise your integrity for any woman
you are the shit

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So, I haven't posted in a while but trust me, I went through a bunch of shit. Overall, it made me much stronger. I recommend three things...quit drinking for a bit as it is a depressant, sign up and go to discovery-training.com - it will change your life, and go to a doctor and temporarily get yourself on an SSRI to moderate your mood.

You can thank me later! =)

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[QUOTE=Twitchy;34705]So, I haven't posted in a while but trust me, I went through a bunch of shit. Overall, it made me much stronger. I recommend three things...quit drinking for a bit as it is a depressant, sign up and go to discovery-training.com - it will change your life, and go to a doctor and temporarily get yourself on an SSRI to moderate your mood.

You can thank me later! =)[/QUOTE]

So you were depressed and used alcohol to medicate your problems then figured out that wasn't going to work so you tried a psychoactive anti-depressant.........which is very addictive. Simply put, you replaced one drug with another.

I think it would be healthier and safer to work on fixing whats wrong in your life, not covering it up with more drugs.

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I WAS on anti-depressants a looooooooooong time ago, like 12 years ago. I don't take them now and don't expect I ever will again. I can say one thing about them. The certainly do prevent you from feeling depressed, sad, or anxious. But, they also prevent you from feeling happy, excited, or any other fucking feeling you can think of...

In my opinion, that shit turns people with issues that they need to work out in therapy into zombies. Most mental health professionals will tell you that you CAN use anti-depressants to stabilize you if you're really, really depressed but whatever it is that's bothering you will eventually poke it's head out if you aren't in some kind of mental health program...i.e. therapy.

Twitchy is right though, lay off the booze. Actually, this is something I've decided to do as well, but for slightly different reasons.

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I do suggest OTC anti depressents. They are mainly herbal, and dont have the side effects of SSRI's. (dont get my started on ssri's and their dangers, my background is in psych)

Try st johns wort, or 5-htp. I also like Happy Pills. Most any vitamin store carries them, and I can personally vouch for their effectiveness.

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[QUOTE=Bull Run;34710]I WAS on anti-depressants a looooooooooong time ago, like 12 years ago. I don't take them now and don't expect I ever will again. I can say one thing about them. The certainly do prevent you from feeling depressed, sad, or anxious. But, they also prevent you from feeling happy, excited, or any other fucking feeling you can think of...

In my opinion, that shit turns people with issues that they need to work out in therapy into zombies. Most mental health professionals will tell you that you CAN use anti-depressants to stabilize you if you're really, really depressed but whatever it is that's bothering you will eventually poke it's head out if you aren't in some kind of mental health program...i.e. therapy.

Twitchy is right though, lay off the booze. Actually, this is something I've decided to do as well, but for slightly different reasons.[/QUOTE]


Some doctors just over medicate. My doctor was very in-depth with me on finding what worked, and balancing it so I wouldn't be a zombie. Sure, I had to go in for check ups twice a month until we pegged the right meds and dosages, but once you get it right, it is all worth it.

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[QUOTE=El Fenix;34720]

Try st johns wort, or 5-htp. I also like Happy Pills. [/QUOTE]

I can't speak from experience because I have tried neither otc or script pills (hard to get prescription anti depressents when you have no insurance), but I would think that the herbal stuff isn't nearly as strong. I have tried some herbal stuff in the past for various things and they always seem so weak (feels like I'm throwing money away).

But I may give em a try and see what they're like.

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[QUOTE=Smirks;34732]Some doctors just over medicate. My doctor was very in-depth with me on finding what worked, and balancing it so I wouldn't be a zombie. Sure, I had to go in for check ups twice a month until we pegged the right meds and dosages, but once you get it right, it is all worth it.[/QUOTE]


To each their own. Still though, I think meds are just putting a band-aid over a wound that needs stitches.