Thanks

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Between you guys first hand accounts, cross posted material, and reading from the various books put out be the Guru's I had an epic night.

Went to a Bar in Dallas tonight and picked up a 2-set of HB7.5-8. Not one, but both. I know one is very interested but I feel like I have a chance with each of them. I just wanted to thank you guys for all the great information I have read here.

A question though, what is good day 2 etiquette especially for going to a club/bar?

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Don't take your game face off just yet.

A lot of people make the mistake of not gaming on day2's and dates. I know Iv'e made those mistakes. If you got the day2 they obviously have some attraction towards you and you are technically starting off in the comfort phase, so don't be afraid of building a lot of kino.

Now be careful with that though, I have also seen guys that picked up kino where they left off the last time they saw the girl and that shit just doesn't fly because women are driven by emotions and kino escalates these emotions. So the last time you saw the girl, they were most likely on an emotional high due to all the kino escalation if you did it right.

So start small, putting your arm around their back to say something to them is a good example. Anything that is socially acceptable for a stranger to do. Once she is completely comfortable with that, escalate more, and then more, and then you have em back at your place. And game over. For her at least.

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Thanks for the advice Gamble.

The game face is still on. I work nights until midnight so a day 2 hasn't been an option, also why I have never made an event. Its been all text game so far with both girls I met. My focus has to been to try and bring back good memories from the initial meeting, make her laugh, DHV, and tossing in a few small qualifiers so that she knows I am the prize.

After being out of sync for so long after the breakup I had, that night was just a great feeling. Thus the half drunk post... Note to self, dont post drunk.

My current sticking point is getting the day 2. I can usually pick up a phone number per night (1... thats it? Hey its progress). Where I am having trouble is getting them to commit to a day 2. A lot of times they will say they are coming but I can't get a firm committment from them. I'm not sure if I am coming off creepy or something, though I doubt it.

Any advice from you vets?

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[QUOTE=Gearz;34551]Thanks for the advice Gamble.

The game face is still on. I work nights until midnight so a day 2 hasn't been an option, also why I have never made an event. Its been all text game so far with both girls I met. My focus has to been to try and bring back good memories from the initial meeting, make her laugh, DHV, and tossing in a few small qualifiers so that she knows I am the prize.

After being out of sync for so long after the breakup I had, that night was just a great feeling. Thus the half drunk post... Note to self, dont post drunk.

My current sticking point is getting the day 2. I can usually pick up a phone number per night (1... thats it? Hey its progress). Where I am having trouble is getting them to commit to a day 2. A lot of times they will say they are coming but I can't get a firm committment from them. I'm not sure if I am coming off creepy or something, though I doubt it.

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Yep. You haven't built enough comfort. Most guys start with attraction then think that equates to seduction, but it doesn't in the least. You've got to learn to make her comfortable with you. The fundamental requirement for day2s is comfort. A girl, generally, will not meet you for a day2 unless she's comfortable with you. So, work on making her more comfortable and you'll be golden...

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I certainly don't equate attraction to seduction. I feel as if I have gotten a fair understanding of attraction, to the point where I am at the conscious incompetence level.

But when it comes to comfort it is still a complete mystery to me. Is this something that can be achieved through text/phone conversation?

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Search around on the forum and you'll find a lot of suggestions on how Day 2's should go, ideas for what to do on the Day 2, etc.

I quickly found one [URL]http://www.dallaslair.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5063[/URL]

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I like what Smirks said about people skipping comfort. I have seen a lot of people with the problem of skipping phases and it just doesn't work for them. When I first started I had a bad habit of skipping A3 and comfort. I was like qualification is so small, I don't need to do this. But you do. I couldn't get a Day2 to save my life while I was skipping either on of them. The girl may not even answer your call if she knows nothing about you.

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[QUOTE=Gearz;34551]Thanks for the advice Gamble.


I can usually pick up a phone number per night (1... thats it? Hey its progress). Where I am having trouble is getting them to commit to a day 2. A lot of times they will say they are coming but I can't get a firm committment from them. I'm not sure if I am coming off creepy or something, though I doubt it.

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Don't be discouraged! As previously mentioned "comfort" is a requirement, but the fact remains that women are flakey, illogical, emotional creatures. You are going to run into girls that give out phone numbers with little reason other than they feel compelled to do so and then when it comes down to the real deal they flake.

As you gain more experience you'll be able to predict the flakes and won't invest time on them.

You can work on letting them know more about you while you are learning more about them. You don't want the conversation to feel like some one-sided interview. So offer up something interesting about yourself. You might also work on developing some solid text game to help increase comfort b4 securing a date.

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Solid advice UH, thank you.