advice? stuck... HB nurse

[Guest]

[QUOTE=budgetballer;33761]

"Work's great. And no worries..I knew that cute smile was too good to be true."

"What's that mean?"

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=budgetballer;33761]

ME>> " You're a BAD girl. LOL. I've been working out at this time lately. So when I call the next time, are you gonna answer? I can't believe I even have to ask... :) "

[/QUOTE]

i think youre really digging yourself a hole here.

your first quote implies that shes not interested and ignored your call. to me, that just comes off as insecure, needy, clingy, whatever you wanna call it. you basically communicated that, "oh you dont like me, i knew getting your number and us dating was too good to be true..."

in the second quote, you asked if she was going to pick up your call..how is a girl supposed to respond to that? i know you asked the question to gauge her interest (if she says: yes = interested, no = not interested), but that question can place alot of pressure on women. she basically HAS to say yes (even if she wants to say no) so she wont "hurt" you.

mystery always talks about being alpha and leading. so does an alpha male asks for permission to call a girl? no. he does what he wants, when he wants. you want to call her, call her. (credit bull run for preaching that school of thinking)

as for calling vs texting to set up a date, i have mixed thoughts.

on one hand, texting her places much less pressure on her, but i truly feel that by calling, youre communicating that shes worth the effort to call. if she likes you, she'd gladly say yes.

i usually build comfort via text, then call to set up the date.

now, for what its worth, ive read a ton of surveys in all sorts of magazines, AND EVERYONE of them said that women prefer a guy to call when setting up a date.

if she likes you, she'll appreciate the effort....

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Prodigy;33791]i think youre really digging yourself a hole here.

your first quote implies that shes not interested and ignored your call. to me, that just comes off as insecure, needy, clingy, whatever you wanna call it. you basically communicated that, "oh you dont like me, i knew getting your number and us dating was too good to be true..."

in the second quote, you asked if she was going to pick up your call..how is a girl supposed to respond to that? i know you asked the question to gauge her interest (if she says: yes = interested, no = not interested), but that question can place alot of pressure on women. she basically HAS to say yes (even if she wants to say no) so she wont "hurt" you.

mystery always talks about being alpha and leading. so does an alpha male asks for permission to call a girl? no. he does what he wants, when he wants. you want to call her, call her. (credit bull run for preaching that school of thinking)

as for calling vs texting to set up a date, i have mixed thoughts.

on one hand, texting her places much less pressure on her, but i truly feel that by calling, youre communicating that shes worth the effort to call. if she likes you, she'd gladly say yes.

i usually build comfort via text, then call to set up the date.

now, for what its worth, ive read a ton of surveys in all sorts of magazines, AND EVERYONE of them said that women prefer a guy to call when setting up a date.

if she likes you, she'll appreciate the effort....[/QUOTE]

Hey Prodigy, thanks for the input but I really said the first thing about it being too good to be true..to use it in a PUSH/PULL kind of way. I think I succeeded in that regard.

And I didn't ask the 2nd question to gauge her interest. lol I know her schedule is hectic so I was asking with the intent that she might ask me to call at a specific time. I failed so it didn't matter. :D

I'm gonna keep it TEXT until I meet up with her to show her what's up. Seriously though. I've called her 2x. I called because i wanted to and I was being ALPHA then. But if you call more than that, it's just straight up weird/needy. Besides, if she was comfortable enough or wanted to talk on the phone, she has my # to return my call. She never did. =) So I'm hoping that BullRun and PlayerCool are right and that she IS interested enough to keep the interaction going but maybe just not comfortable at this stage to talk on the phone.

[Guest]

wow, i was way off base..! :o

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Prodigy;33793]wow, i was way off base..! :o[/QUOTE]


It's all good. lol

[Guest]

[QUOTE=budgetballer;33790]Man I feel old but now enlightened thanks to your guys info... You'all make it sound so simple.

Playercool, I will work on true comfort in person with her. If things are going well, should I go ahead and make plans for a 2nd date on the spot or wait until later and do it? (via text of course)


BullRun, thanks for breaking it down. I'm gonna borrow your line and execute. My only problem is that today is my last free day in town. I won't be back until Sunday evening for the holiday break. Is it too late notice to have her meet tonight and is it too late to wait until Sunday? lol I know I'm overanalyzing but I can't help but be detail-oriented. I take this seriously. :D[/QUOTE]



I'll put my 2 cents in here and answer both:

First, do not set up a second date via text. You can do it in person much later in the night on your first date. Usually what I do is talk about cool places where I met cool people and have cool stories to tell about each. If she's in to you she's going to BEG you to take her to said places. This is why having places to go is uber important.

Second, neither is too late. Remember, you are the PRIZE. If you want to meet her tonight, drop her a line...

"I'm going out to get into some trouble, you should come with...if you can handle it!!!"

If you want to meet her Sunday, give it a day or two and then send her what I previously said you should say.

The underlying theme that all of us are trying to subcommunicate to you is that you are the PRIZE. In that case, she's lucky to be with you. Hold tight to that frame and you'll always do the appropriate thing. If what you do doesn't work out for you, then guess what? Fuck her. Next. Move on and find one that will value you as a person. Be selfish my friend...you deserve it, we all do!!!!

[Guest]

I've been following this post from my phone, and just now getting a chance to respond.

Like everyone has already said, handle this girl with text. First call was okay, but second one was try hard. She didn't call you back, but responded to your text. HEEEERRREEE'S your sign.

Second, I feel like you're trying to force escalation...mainly sexual escalation with these texts. That's why she's not getting it. It's like a kid in a stairwell stretching his legs out trying to skip as many steps as possible. Sit back, relax, and be the dude enjoying the ride on the escalator. Your meet and # close are very vanilla, and trying to interject sexuality in there without any base for anything, really, is going to make her uncomfortable.

I, too, have dated many a nurse. Most of them work hard and party hard. The ones who don't are either still working to further their nursing education or the most boring humans on the face of the planet...which you don't want to bother with anyway. It's going to be difficult to get her on a date. They have very little spare time, and when they get a free night, they usually have those plans well in advance. You might have to depend on TEXTING her one night when you know she's out and hit her up for a meetup then.

Good luck, sir.

[Guest]

Thanks for all the advice guys. Lessons learned. =)

I think it's game over for this particular nurse. lol I can see how my escalation was making her uncomfortable. I just didn't want to be stuck in the LJBF zone ..the texts were more to build attraction but I guess that didn't work out to my favor. OH well...ya live and ya learn.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=budgetballer;33826]Thanks for all the advice guys. Lessons learned. =)

I think it's game over for this particular nurse. lol I can see how my escalation was making her uncomfortable. I just didn't want to be stuck in the LJBF zone ..the texts were more to build attraction but I guess that didn't work out to my favor. OH well...ya live and ya learn.[/QUOTE]

You just need something to build attraction upon. Don't worry, it'll come to ya soon enough. Practice makes perfect!

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Smirks;33839]You just need something to build attraction upon. Don't worry, it'll come to ya soon enough. Practice makes perfect![/QUOTE]

Thanks, Smirks. Can you give me an example or two of how to build attraction following a number close in an effort to set up a solid DAY 2?

[Guest]

[QUOTE=budgetballer;33846]Thanks, Smirks. Can you give me an example or two of how to build attraction following a number close in an effort to set up a solid DAY 2?[/QUOTE]

PM me your email. I'll send you an excel spreadsheet with a 10 hour text convo I had. I did EVERYTHING via text. I found her on a dating site, messaged very little on there, got her # and went to town. She was ready to sit on my face on our 1st date. You'll see how I run through just comfort/rapport for quite a while before anything gets sexual. So, in this example, I built attraction UPON the rapport.