[QUOTE=Neuromancer;33075]My take on marriage.
Marriage serves 2 purposes. These purposes do not overlap.
1. Marriage is a religious institution. People get married in the sight of their god as a symbol of following their faith. According to their faith there are rules on separation that must be followed. If the marriage is for religious reasons, keep it religous and avoid purpose #2. Oh, one more thing, Don't be selective about religion. If you are fuckin' you are sinnin'. Don't kid yourself. Live your lifestyle by your faith.
2. Marriage is a form of legal partnership. It's status under law is an unlimited business partnership as apposed to a limited partnership or incorporation. It allows benefit provided to the partner (hence why it is so useful to the homosexual community, one can work and gain benefits from an employer and commute that to a partner who then builds equity elsewhere, gays get rich)
If you can gain value in this manner go for it but watch for consequences. A good example for this would be, you marry a girl with a good job and insurance and then quit your job to build your own business. This is why prenuptial agreements are useful. If she doesn't hold up her end of the bargain, quits her job and sits at home eating bonbons, she is in default on the business deal. If you are not gaining financial benefit, don't get married. This doesn't mean you get more than her or she doesn't benefit at all. If she benefits without providing benefit to you, you shouldn't do it.
I have no intention of getting married to any woman. On the other hand, being an Australian citizen, I am thinking about entering into a Civil Union with my best friend and business partner so we can move our business off shore and leave the country if need be. I still like the women but I haven't met one who would make a good unlimited business partner.[/QUOTE]
A civil union with your business partner? You can't be serious come on dude. You really need to study up on business. You can leave the country anytime you want. You can do offshore business anytime you want. How does a civil union help this? Please seek legal council before you do anything of this nature.
Anyways back on topic.
Do you guys think that knowing and learning game has actually screwed up our thought process? Think about what most of us are saying about marriage. Most of us are saying we would never get married. That is not a normal thought process. So have we screwed ourselves? Are we all gonna get old and lonely? Are we gonna be pissed when we are older and still chasing girls while our looks are fading? Are we gonna regret that we didn't settle down when we start looking like major losers out at the bars when we are in our 40's chasing youngins?
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by Guest » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:43 pm
[I][B]Do you guys think that knowing and learning game has actually screwed up our thought process? Think about what most of us are saying about marriage. Most of us are saying we would never get married. That is not a normal thought process. So have we screwed ourselves? Are we all gonna get old and lonely? Are we gonna be pissed when we are older and still chasing girls while our looks are fading? Are we gonna regret that we didn't settle down when we start looking like major losers out at the bars when we are in our 40's chasing youngins?[/B][/I]
PC, I've spent some time thinking about this kind of stuff. I hope I have another ten years before I have to worry! lol
I can't speak for everybody, but learning PUA skills has afforded me the opportunity to acquire more women than if I hadn't learned the skills. Its through the acquisition of too many women that has impacted me in a slightly negative manner. As I became more capable I went a little overboard with my new found powers! lol. It became a huge thrill while feeding my ego. Like most things, too much of a good thing isn't always good.
One thing for sure is I have no regrets and its full speed ahead wherever the road may take me. Looking back on it all, I've had some good times that those married friends of mine only wish they could have had.
There is always a price to pay for success, if that means I'm washed up, ugly, and lonely in my 40's well then so be it. There will still be ho's standing there trying to take my money. No matter if you date it or buy it, pussy is never free............but its pretty cheap down in Mexico! ;-)
PC, I've spent some time thinking about this kind of stuff. I hope I have another ten years before I have to worry! lol
I can't speak for everybody, but learning PUA skills has afforded me the opportunity to acquire more women than if I hadn't learned the skills. Its through the acquisition of too many women that has impacted me in a slightly negative manner. As I became more capable I went a little overboard with my new found powers! lol. It became a huge thrill while feeding my ego. Like most things, too much of a good thing isn't always good.
One thing for sure is I have no regrets and its full speed ahead wherever the road may take me. Looking back on it all, I've had some good times that those married friends of mine only wish they could have had.
There is always a price to pay for success, if that means I'm washed up, ugly, and lonely in my 40's well then so be it. There will still be ho's standing there trying to take my money. No matter if you date it or buy it, pussy is never free............but its pretty cheap down in Mexico! ;-)
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by Guest » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:49 pm
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Do you guys think that knowing and learning game has actually screwed up our thought process? Think about what most of us are saying about marriage. Most of us are saying we would never get married. That is not a normal thought process. So have we screwed ourselves? Are we all gonna get old and lonely? Are we gonna be pissed when we are older and still chasing girls while our looks are fading? Are we gonna regret that we didn't settle down when we start looking like major losers out at the bars when we are in our 40's chasing youngins?[/QUOTE]
i think about this a lot at my age now. I don't think it has screwed it up per se, it's just removes the woman from the pedestal now. She is no longer a prized commodity because of scarcity. Having choices means now giving more power to the man and tolerating less bullshit. And LTRs mean bullshit. The women needs to bring more value now.
Problem is, like the article i posted awhile back says, will you/we "have a seat when the music stops". At some point, I hope that the desires that a women/family bring me out weigh the negatives an LTR brings along the way.
I think many people marry early though out of the fear of being alone and/or pressure not out of true happiness and freewill. I think our tools let us hopefully maneuver through that pitfall.
Do you guys think that knowing and learning game has actually screwed up our thought process? Think about what most of us are saying about marriage. Most of us are saying we would never get married. That is not a normal thought process. So have we screwed ourselves? Are we all gonna get old and lonely? Are we gonna be pissed when we are older and still chasing girls while our looks are fading? Are we gonna regret that we didn't settle down when we start looking like major losers out at the bars when we are in our 40's chasing youngins?[/QUOTE]
i think about this a lot at my age now. I don't think it has screwed it up per se, it's just removes the woman from the pedestal now. She is no longer a prized commodity because of scarcity. Having choices means now giving more power to the man and tolerating less bullshit. And LTRs mean bullshit. The women needs to bring more value now.
Problem is, like the article i posted awhile back says, will you/we "have a seat when the music stops". At some point, I hope that the desires that a women/family bring me out weigh the negatives an LTR brings along the way.
I think many people marry early though out of the fear of being alone and/or pressure not out of true happiness and freewill. I think our tools let us hopefully maneuver through that pitfall.
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by Guest » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:35 pm
[QUOTE=playercool;33085]
Do you guys think that knowing and learning game has actually screwed up our thought process? Think about what most of us are saying about marriage. Most of us are saying we would never get married. That is not a normal thought process. So have we screwed ourselves? Are we all gonna get old and lonely? Are we gonna be pissed when we are older and still chasing girls while our looks are fading? Are we gonna regret that we didn't settle down when we start looking like major losers out at the bars when we are in our 40's chasing youngins?[/QUOTE]
Me personally, I've known I didn't want to get married long before I even heard of game. Mainly because I'm not attracted to older women. I want to be banging 18yos when I'm in my 30s, my 40s, my 50s, and my 60s and beyond if i live that long.
I keep getting older, they stay the same age.
Find me a woman who doesn't age, like an elf or an android or an immortal like from Highlander, and I might consider an LTR.
Do you guys think that knowing and learning game has actually screwed up our thought process? Think about what most of us are saying about marriage. Most of us are saying we would never get married. That is not a normal thought process. So have we screwed ourselves? Are we all gonna get old and lonely? Are we gonna be pissed when we are older and still chasing girls while our looks are fading? Are we gonna regret that we didn't settle down when we start looking like major losers out at the bars when we are in our 40's chasing youngins?[/QUOTE]
Me personally, I've known I didn't want to get married long before I even heard of game. Mainly because I'm not attracted to older women. I want to be banging 18yos when I'm in my 30s, my 40s, my 50s, and my 60s and beyond if i live that long.
I keep getting older, they stay the same age.
Find me a woman who doesn't age, like an elf or an android or an immortal like from Highlander, and I might consider an LTR.
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by Guest » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:18 pm
[QUOTE=playercool;33085]A civil union with your business partner? You can't be serious come on dude. You really need to study up on business. You can leave the country anytime you want. You can do offshore business anytime you want. How does a civil union help this? Please seek legal council before you do anything of this nature.
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It was a joke dude
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It was a joke dude
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by Guest » Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:46 am
I am currently taking family law course, and I found this interesting in my book, "To an increasing degree, marriage is viewed as an economic partnership that is subject to mutual modification (i.e. prenup), rather than as an eternal union of love benevolently presided over by the husband."
Just to bring up a point, in order for there to be a legal contract it would have to include, offer, acceptance, and consideration.
And marriage is viewed by the state as a contract to marry.
Has anyone here asked themselves what exactly they would be approaching the topic of marriage for?
You offer to marry some girl, she accepts, but what are the terms (reasoning for prenup)?
The way I see it, the world (society) has lost a grasp on what works. Meaning the thing that keeps couples together, inequality of the sexes. Men and women are not the same, yet somehow society thinks by giving both sexes the same rights it somehow isn't going to affect relationships?
Bullshit.
Not saying women shouldn't be allowed to vote or any of that trivial bullshit, I am saying that women and men's places in the home are and should be, completely different, if not biblically based. It works. So why change something if it isn't broke?
The reason, I would venture, that most on here can't conceive marriage in the near future, is because women have lost virtue in your eyes, and indeed, most in our current society have. Most are to caught up in the rat race (which used to be dealt with by men only) that they have become "stronger" more man like (because they've had to, to fit in) and less feminine.
Which is why they still like it when you are strong and manly, and when you throw them down and ravish them or tell them to lovingly "shut the fuck up before you punish her".
Find me a women that is an empty jar or void of societal ways, and I'll show you a woman fit for marriage. These are the women that you want to find. You can "train" them but be aware that if she turns out screwed up, it's because you fucked up, not her. (Yet another reason why the saying "lead to fuck" is true)
Just to bring up a point, in order for there to be a legal contract it would have to include, offer, acceptance, and consideration.
And marriage is viewed by the state as a contract to marry.
Has anyone here asked themselves what exactly they would be approaching the topic of marriage for?
You offer to marry some girl, she accepts, but what are the terms (reasoning for prenup)?
The way I see it, the world (society) has lost a grasp on what works. Meaning the thing that keeps couples together, inequality of the sexes. Men and women are not the same, yet somehow society thinks by giving both sexes the same rights it somehow isn't going to affect relationships?
Bullshit.
Not saying women shouldn't be allowed to vote or any of that trivial bullshit, I am saying that women and men's places in the home are and should be, completely different, if not biblically based. It works. So why change something if it isn't broke?
The reason, I would venture, that most on here can't conceive marriage in the near future, is because women have lost virtue in your eyes, and indeed, most in our current society have. Most are to caught up in the rat race (which used to be dealt with by men only) that they have become "stronger" more man like (because they've had to, to fit in) and less feminine.
Which is why they still like it when you are strong and manly, and when you throw them down and ravish them or tell them to lovingly "shut the fuck up before you punish her".
Find me a women that is an empty jar or void of societal ways, and I'll show you a woman fit for marriage. These are the women that you want to find. You can "train" them but be aware that if she turns out screwed up, it's because you fucked up, not her. (Yet another reason why the saying "lead to fuck" is true)
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by Guest » Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:18 pm
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]For me right now being married doesn’t offer me anything I can't have in a LTR it only limits me. I can have kids, I can get sex, I can have a connect with a woman. How does being married make any of that better?[/FONT][/COLOR]
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by Guest » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:45 pm
[QUOTE=jast;33117][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]For me right now being married doesn’t offer me anything I can't have in a LTR it only limits me. I can have kids, I can get sex, I can have a connect with a woman. How does being married make any of that better?[/FONT][/COLOR]
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You get to give her half your stuff when you break up.
Oh wait, you meant better for YOU... ;)
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You get to give her half your stuff when you break up.
Oh wait, you meant better for YOU... ;)
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by Guest » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:01 pm
[QUOTE=jast;33117][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]For me right now being married doesn’t offer me anything I can't have in a LTR it only limits me. I can have kids, I can get sex, I can have a connect with a woman. How does being married make any of that better?[/FONT][/COLOR]
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From what you said, if you choose to have kids with a particular women, strictly economically speaking it would be cheaper, IF, and this is a big IF you could stay with the mother.
Emotionally, entirely different subject.
If you want a kid, and want it to be on your terms then I would adopt...
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From what you said, if you choose to have kids with a particular women, strictly economically speaking it would be cheaper, IF, and this is a big IF you could stay with the mother.
Emotionally, entirely different subject.
If you want a kid, and want it to be on your terms then I would adopt...
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