Interesting read about female infidelity

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I don't know about any one else, but I don't necessarily think that women cheat more than men...OR if they do cheat, let's say as much as men, that they are some how bad people.

No, not at all. I think people are people. PC was right in saying that we all live in a world full of temptation, so it is expected that we all sucumb to said temptation at roughly the same rate.

Instead, I think it's the void that is the real problem. You see, as little boys growing up in our society we are taught that men are sexual deviants...consumed with fucking and that we think about it every 7 seconds (which is a bullshit stat because that's literally impossible). On the other hand, we are taught that women are essentially nuns that have been corrupted by men, and our sexual desires, in an attempt to maintain (or create) a 'relationship' with a man.

You see, men want sex because we are flawed...but, women want sex because they just want to be loved. One is virtuous, while the other is not. I'm sure you can do the math and figure out which is which.

And, there in lies the problem. I don't think the article, or the comments, are trying to make women into demons. Instead, I think the conclusions and thoughts found here are meant to highlight the 'void' between the two sexes...

Basically, it's a way of reinforcing to ourselves, as men, that we are human. And you know what? There is nothing wrong with that...

PS: I still maintain that men are better than women ;)

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Anyways my mindset shifts on this topic(getting married or staying single for ever) daily and this is one of the reasons. Our society today is just different than it was even a generation ago. It is so much easier to cheat ecspecially for women now that they are out of the houses and in the workforce.[/QUOTE]

Take it from the man who is most married-like on this board. Stay single. Unless it serves a definite purpose for you (Example: You would like to run for public office and need the married image). Don't get married just for shits and giggles. If you're going to take the plunge do it for a good reason. "Love" is not a good enough reason. Love fades. Love evaporates.

Everything goes downhill after the day you get married. That's the beginning of the end.

I used to think 30 would be a good age to get married. Now I think that is the worst idea I have ever heard. 40 seems more reasonable. Even 50 would be good. I've not met a single young, happily married man. They all have had their souls sucked out of them. I can always tell a young married man by their cold, lifeless eyes.

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[QUOTE=AlphaMo;33069]Pretty sad to hear all of this loss of faith in fidelity.

I'm not here to say how many women cheat...or or how many don't...truth is I don't know. But assume that the article posted (which is probably a tertiary source...or more) is correct and the statistic that 15% of women cheat (or have cheated? or are cheating? or would cheat? ...iunno, the excerpt in the article is very poorly worded making me wonder what omitted contexts go with this number). But let's just say it means 'have cheated':

This means that if you date 20 different randomly selected women, only 3 of them have cheated (not **will** cheat on you...**have** cheated). Now we all know cheating in relationships exists in the world...and it sucks...but 3/20 is pretty low (we aren't talking money here...).

I have plenty of friends-that-are-girls who I'd be REALLY surprised to learn have ever cheated before.
I also know several girls who have told me they have cheated before (or of whom it wouldn't really surprise me to find out that they have or are currently cheating on a boyfriend).

It's possible that one or two of the former case have cheated and I just couldn't suspect it, but I'd be willing to bet that just about all of them haven't.

Fact is, we have no basis to generalize this to "all [or most] women cheat"...and if you try to do that, then you're really just fucking up your own outlook on life.

Find a girl worth keeping (...which probably isn't the first one you meet...), learn how to hold and maintain a strong relationship, and your odds that she will cheat will drop.

If she cheats, and you find out, then hopefully you've learned enough here to move on to the next girl and decide if there's anything you can learn from the situation.
If she cheats, and you don't find out....well then the old "ignorance is bliss" adage applies.[/QUOTE]

Alphamo,

There was a time I could have uttered those words myself. Unfortunately that time has passed. It would be great to feel like some women have character. I have had 4 serious relationships. Out of those four, exactly zero have cheated that I know about. One might argue that none of them cheated if I didn't know. Another, more jaded fellow, might argue that they just kept fantastic secrets. It would be great to think they stayed true - it would also be great if I hadn't pounded a million girls who had boyfriends. Frankly it doesn't matter if they cheated or didn't cheat. What matters is now I know all their dirty little secrets and I know what they are capable of.

3/20 may apply. But I will venture a guess that the guys on this board meet women mostly at bars. I'll venture another guess and say that ups the ratio roughly 100%.

Find a girl that doesn't do the bars, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, and is attractive and you have yourself a keeper.

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[QUOTE=Lion;33071]Take it from the man who is most married-like on this board. Stay single. Unless it serves a definite purpose for you (Example: You would like to run for public office and need the married image). Don't get married just for shits and giggles. If you're going to take the plunge do it for a good reason. "Love" is not a good enough reason. Love fades. Love evaporates.

Everything goes downhill after the day you get married. That's the beginning of the end.

I used to think 30 would be a good age to get married. Now I think that is the worst idea I have ever heard. 40 seems more reasonable. Even 50 would be good. I've not met a single young, happily married man. They all have had their souls sucked out of them. I can always tell a young married man by their cold, lifeless eyes.[/QUOTE]


I would like to know your definition of "most-married". Could you tell me please?

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My take on marriage.

Marriage serves 2 purposes. These purposes do not overlap.

1. Marriage is a religious institution. People get married in the sight of their god as a symbol of following their faith. According to their faith there are rules on separation that must be followed. If the marriage is for religious reasons, keep it religous and avoid purpose #2. Oh, one more thing, Don't be selective about religion. If you are fuckin' you are sinnin'. Don't kid yourself. Live your lifestyle by your faith.

2. Marriage is a form of legal partnership. It's status under law is an unlimited business partnership as apposed to a limited partnership or incorporation. It allows benefit provided to the partner (hence why it is so useful to the homosexual community, one can work and gain benefits from an employer and commute that to a partner who then builds equity elsewhere, gays get rich)

If you can gain value in this manner go for it but watch for consequences. A good example for this would be, you marry a girl with a good job and insurance and then quit your job to build your own business. This is why prenuptial agreements are useful. If she doesn't hold up her end of the bargain, quits her job and sits at home eating bonbons, she is in default on the business deal. If you are not gaining financial benefit, don't get married. This doesn't mean you get more than her or she doesn't benefit at all. If she benefits without providing benefit to you, you shouldn't do it.

I have no intention of getting married to any woman. On the other hand, being an Australian citizen, I am thinking about entering into a Civil Union with my best friend and business partner so we can move our business off shore and leave the country if need be. I still like the women but I haven't met one who would make a good unlimited business partner.

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[QUOTE=Lion;33071]Everything goes downhill after the day you get married. That's the beginning of the end.

I used to think 30 would be a good age to get married. Now I think that is the worst idea I have ever heard. 40 seems more reasonable. Even 50 would be good. I've not met a single young, happily married man. They all have had their souls sucked out of them. I can always tell a young married man by their cold, lifeless eyes.[/QUOTE]


Amen brother. Young, married men only talk about how much they don't get to do. They only talk about how they don't get laid, how their wives won't let them party with the boys as much as they'd like, how their wives won't go ass to mouth, how their wives won't let them have their stuff hanging up in the house, etc.

It seems to me that being married is just trading your mother for a different girl that, every now and again when she wants something, will fuck you.

Sometimes I wonder if another woman is really what we need...

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[QUOTE=Finesse;33073]I would like to know your definition of "most-married". Could you tell me please?[/QUOTE]

Most Married-like. It's like being married without being married. As in we live in a typical married life without the actual noose around my neck. I'm free in all the ways a married man is not, however, we live together and all that jazz.

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[QUOTE=Lion;33077]Most Married-like. It's like being married without being married. As in we live in a typical married life without the actual noose around my neck. I'm free in all the ways a married man is not, however, we live together and all that jazz.[/QUOTE]

So you gain all the benefits without any of the responsibilities or limitations... well, that sounds less like marriage and more like house mates that fuck.

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I've been divorced for almost 2 years now and feel like I got a "piece of me" back after I finally got over my trip thru Splitsville. Its amazing how many people that have known me for a long time say "we are glad the old Uncle HOwie is back".

That marriage thing just put limits on me and in turn cramped my style. Most of you would think I had the easiest going wife on the planet........and I did, but it was still too restrictive on me. You would have thought a marriage between two highly independent individuals would have worked but it didn't.

It depends a lot on your personality. If you are one that likes sharing the stage and are ok with not getting your way then marriage might be suited for you. I put more value in my personal independence and doing things my own way. I'm totally capable of making my own decisions and don't need a female to help make me successful.

Every person I know that has cheated on their spouse did so because they had emotional needs that weren't getting met. The next thing you know some fuckstain comes a long and instantly the grass is greener on the other side.

My brain just goes into overdrive when this topic comes up, sometimes those bitches drive me fucking nuts. Every single one of them. I used to really like women but the more I study them, the more I see right thru their games.

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[QUOTE=Lion;33077]Most Married-like. It's like being married without being married. As in we live in a typical married life without the actual noose around my neck. I'm free in all the ways a married man is not, however, we live together and all that jazz.[/QUOTE]

Thanks.