another one for the older PUA's

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cross post, i know.

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This article really resonated with me as a mid 30's PUA. Hell i feel i could have written it. Only thing i disagreed with is that the 30+ guy isn't viewed as marriage material by the 20 somethings.

just wanted to share. stumbled across this in another forum. Good quick read for the older guys.

thoughts?

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Pretty good article...it definitely makes me think.

I keep swaying back and forth from do I ever want to get married to yes of course I want to get married.

This article unfortunately sways my opinion to the side of never getting married and just sleeping with a billion women.

I have now hit an 11 year gap on the downside but what is odd is my upside is only I think 2-3 years. I just don't find very many women that are older very attractive as I am big time into bodies. And let's face it as a women gets older her body is not as good.

I do agree with you TopDog that younger girls will still view you as marriage material. It is just human nature that women mature quicker and almost always end up with an older guy. Now yes that is a huge age difference but women look past that on many occasions.

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This article reminds me that my own beliefs are what limit me. I am reminded of something I heard on an amway motivational tape my brother had where the guy said, "it only takes 6 months to become a success in amway, but it may take years to get to that 6 months."

I believe Pick Up is the same way. It takes 6 months to become a pick up artist but, it may take years getting to that 6 months of learning.

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I'm approximately 2 months away from my 30th birthday and one thing I have noticed is that I am only getting better with age. And, you know what, women are noticing. Not only that, but these women seem to never be my age. Usually, I find that women are 3+/- years older/younger than me, but never usually in that 0 - 3 year range.

The largest age gap I've had is 7 years younger and 6 years older. BUT, only because I refuse to date someone that cannot legally drink. If it weren't for that, I imagine you could tack another 2 to 3 years on the downside to that.

I agree with the author that older women tend to view you as an escape for the realities of their life. Also, older women tend to have fantasies about younger men. It makes them feel young to be with a younger man. As for their bodies as mentioned by PC and in the article, I've found that their sexual confidence, experience, and high probability of having had 'work done' (i.e. boob job, tummy tucks, lipo, etc.) lead to them being surprisingly sexy. And, in a very holistic manner are usually much sexier than younger women.

I disagree with the author's take on younger women though. In my experience I've found that younger women tend to become Smitten Kittens. They simultaneously view you as a lover, provider (usually you make more TONS more money than their age group), mystery (no matter how boring your life may seem, a 30 year old has more life experiences than a 22 year old), and as a father. They tend to have massive amounts of respect for you and think of you as wise and intriguing. So, in my experience, I've found that they tend to want a relationship with you. Sure, you might be a novelty, but you're also unlike any other man in their age group...that makes you valuable and rare. All of the things that they put a value on you tend to have mastered...sex, cool places to go, wisdom, knowledge, established, possession of monetary things, wine/drinks, cuisine, understanding of women (at least more than her age group), power, etc. Based on all of this, they tend to want to please you. But, they usually lack the confidence to just do it and, instead, make you tell them what to do. This is especially true in the sack. They're eager, but need some coaxing. Also, they tend to suck at everything they do in a very obvious way...(I'm speaking of sex here). Finally, they smother the shit out of you. They want to be around you all of the fucking time...so annoying.

Good read though.

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BR.. agree 100 % with your take on younger women in my experience having dated quite a few younger women during my 30's(including current LTR)...but PC, nowadays there are some really attractive, well taken care of older women who can be very sexually confident and be very independent. Refreshing after clingy younger girls.

But here's where it really hit home...i don't really have more to add since this covered it. To me this was the real point of article...

"My own fear is that, spoiled by choice, I’ll just keep chasing the fun until it isn’t fun anymore, until I’ve become so adept at charming my way into and out of emotional entanglements that where I end up is nowhere. The Sweet Spot is sweet precisely because it can’t last forever. There is a line between Happy-Go-Lucky and Oily Perma-Bachelor, our own ticking countdown to cheesiness and desperation. Maybe the line isn’t a particular age but a vestigial hope that there’s someone out there we can truly connect with. “The fear,” says a friend of mine who is eternally unsatisfied but tirelessly optimistic, “is that while we’re busy pursuing this porn life, the real thing is love and making a family, and that’s all passing us by.”

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The age thing is right on. Im sleeping with more than one puma and just the other day, a mother-daughter combo showed up at an event I was at. I slept with the mother because she was simply hotter. 33 rocks.

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Younger guy here...but the oldest that I've had was something like 32 and she had a pretty damn nice body.
(Better than some of the other girls I've been with who where all younger...mostly 22-26 range)

I always said I'd never chase a chick that much older than me...but for this one it was her body that sold her.
Her face was a 6.5 at best...but her body was just fuckin tight (she said something about doing yoga, and it didn't look like surgery work to me).

Nice ass, nice rack, amazing stomach...pretty package deal if you discount the face
(in fact she wound up kicking me out of her apt after I finished because I wouldn't kiss her...)

Anyway, let that be a +1 that it is possible for older chicks to have nice bodies comparable to younger.

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Just to add to the older women can have nice bodies concept...

I'm a regular at the gym, no really I am ;). As such, I tend to run an informal poll on women when I meet/date them. I've found that older women tend to go to the gym more often, more regularly, and work out harder than younger women. Usually, younger women will go for a run a few times a week, while and older woman will do that plus lift weights or do yoga or pilates or something of that nature.

In other words, in my experience older women tend to work harder on their bodies than youner women. Often times, this leads older women to have surprisingly nice bodies.

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my housemate is 34 and a truly talented (natural) pua. this theory is undoubetly true as he is at this age, and a wonderful wing. ill bring 22+/- yr olds around and for him, closing is easy money. in return, he has also intro'd me to multible broads in their late 20s or 30s and i have enjoyed older comfort. our difference in age has proved to be very beneficial. we both have a larger age demographic and it simply opens more doors in the scene. as a general rule, flakeyness fades from females facing 30 + falls. at that age, in their sexual prime i have discovered that nsa fking is cake and accompianed with much less drama. we have yet to split a mother daughter set but i think it is just a matter of time...