Best way to get good?

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Postby Guest » Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:24 am

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What is the best way to get good at this skillset? I have noticed there are a few people in the community (not necessarily the dallas area, but the whole community in general, like mASF and such) that are okay, but not great at this, they kinda just skate by. Especially mASF, it seemes to be filled with kjs. Its got to be more than practice right? Perfect practice makes perfect, but just any practice won't cut it. I don't know, I just seem to be moving slower than I hoped. I don't know if its my attitude (self limiting beliefs?), not practicing enough, not reading enough or what. The other day I went total afc on this girl, it was retarded (I think thats an inner game issue). I'm not trying to be a pick up guru or the best pua ever, I just want to be one of the better ones. Not getting half assed girls you kinda like, but keeping high quality ones in your life, weather it be friends only or not. Maybe I'm just not patient enough, I have only been a part of this for about two months. But any advice would be great on how to expediate the progress. I'm just not looking to be just average.
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Just/Us, May I say few words to you?

I want to help you out here because you seem much like me back then. I was super fired and was posting all the time on the forums. (I was the guy who would always come to forum and be like "I got this this girl and what should I do when she say this or does this?) Recently, I've realized that it doesn't really matter. You need "fuck it" "I don't give a shit attitude." I put so much thoughts into little things that it actually wasn't letting me improve. When it comes down to it, it's YOU that makes the decisions and differences. I have stopped asking community's help and started doing my own thang. It's actually working better, and I've got a potential GF on the way. Although I never done much readings on this Pick up stuff, I did practice a lot. I want to warn you that I'm not claiming I'm a master PUA or anything like that. (I've come to know about "the game" in April 2008 myself). Ever since April, I've gotten number, kiss, fuck closes. (before this PUA stuff, I was a virgin lol)

I want to tell you what has worked for me. (I'm not telling you what I heard or read about. I will tell you what actually worked on me)

1)Look your BEST (I'm serious about this. If you know you're going to sarge, please put on cloth/shoes/apparels that makes you think you look your HOTTEST. This affects my inner game whole lot)
2)INNER GAME (Your confidence lvl / inner game will fluctuate depends on where you're at in your life time. It also depends on your financial situation and such. I know books and all these materials tell you that GOOD PUAs inner game is NEVER affected by other things, but I think it's a lie. Either that or maybe I'm not a good pua lol. Work on inner game. Think about what makes you separate or better than the other people. Your achievement or successes would be a good example. WHen you inner game ain't sturdy, you aren't going anywhere. When you are insecure inside, the chances are you're gonna be insecure outside and people see that.)
3)Have FUN. I don't have any structures or directions on how I game girls. I am very RANDOM and carefree.
4)Don't give a shit. I really don't care about anything at this point. IF a girl calls, that's good for me. If not, oh well. But you know what I found out? They all bound to call you back when they don't hear from you for a LOOOONGG TIME! haha

Start trying to be independent.
I tried to use community's wisdom and opinions to help me game, but I come to realized I had to be independent.
Stop asking community bunch questions and start thinking on your own. (I'm not saying asking questions isn't bad. But try to think on your own and do waht you think is right)
When you are gaming out there, you don't have community people's opinions to help you out on gaming. You need to practice on making decisions at the spot right there.

Finally, KNOW when you think you should be out of community/ community forum.
If you stay in same place/ same people, you will NEVER change. You need to be open minded and willing to see what's out there.
Even though I get on forums now and then, I basically quit the forums/ communities I was involved in.
(by any means, I'm not saying that I quit using PUA stuff I've learned on girls. I just stopped being too involved in it.)

I've had few reasons to let go.. (warning: I'm not saying PUA communities are bad)
1)personal reason (my future/life) -->sarging always on my mind and distracting me with my other life. Lettin go of this addiction was the only way
I went out only sole reason to sarge back then. lol.
2)controversy/ dramas in communities --> ahh this is tiring. Best way to solve the problem is to let them have it their way. Let 'em win.
3)KJs --> Ok this is disappointing part of community. I've been involved in quite a few communities and you see bunch of these guys. I read their posts and get my hopes up. I finally set a date to sarge with them. You meet these guys, and they aren't what you thought they were. It's a BIG waste of time meeting every single KJS out there like that. I actually was foolish enough to try and meet all these "supposedly good guys" on the forum. Most of 'em turned out way below my expectations lol.
4)Change my self. Like I said earlier, you won't change much when you stay in similar environment for such a long time. I'm tryin to get involved in other interest group communities and such.

Well This turned out to be more than few words. haha..
Hope this helps

Disclaimer: I'm not saying communities are bad, asking questions are bad or nothing like that. I want you to be independent. Independent = being strong. YOU make the decisions and differences. So here's my piece of advice. You may take it or leave it.

GOod luck to you

- Sleek
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Postby Guest » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:09 pm

Continuous growth, you mean.
I like the way you see it.
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Postby Guest » Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:09 pm

Just/Us:

I have been in the community for about one year now. Every so often someone joins who I see promise in. You are one of these people.

I have seen you out and I have seen you run some sets that I must admit I was impressed. You did some things that I still struggle with. And you did them with ease.

Here is my advice to you sir:

Get your inner game intact. This is IMO the most crucial aspect of game. I could go on and on here about inner game however I won't. You can get in touch with me in person if you want to sit down and talk about this. It is the biggest fault I see in you right now.

When inner game gets intact your confidence will soar. These go hand in hand but you can't get here until the first one is achieved. Even to this day I can feel when my confidence is low. And of course the results I get when this happens are very poor.

I don't know what your standards are right now. I think when you first start you have to build this ramp. Eventually you will get to the HB9 or HB10. But you have to conquer the 5's 6's 7's and 8's first. Don't skip Go. Don't collect $200. Start towards the bottom and build up. You are building a foundation. If the lowest level is shitty and weak you will never go higher. And if you somehow do skip a level just like TopDog mentions you will fail the shit tests. The hotter the girl the bigger the Shit Test. It is some rule or something that God made.

Back to this ramp analogy. When you get good with these lower girls your Confidence will increase. And more importantly your inner game will get a little more solid. I know there are so many things that affect inner game but in this regard you will feel so much better.

As you go up this ramp you will trade in the lower quality girls for ones that are slightly better. This happens over and over and over again. I believe so strongly in this process. I guess because it happened to me and I know exactly what happened to my inner game and confidence.

Don't be afraid to escalate. Both in the venue and on Day 2's. I am not advocating being over the top aggressive or anything. I am saying when the opportunity presents itself: ACT
Girls love guys who can take control and be confident doing so.

I've seen you out a ton since you joined the community so I think you are on the right track in regards to practice. Of course I didn't see you do too much last night. Figure out what your current sticking point is and work on that. I know you have some shit down so you should be able to conquer this current problem.

That is all I will write now.

Good Luck
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Postby Guest » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:48 pm

wow...alot of good stuff in this thread!!
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Postby Guest » Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:48 pm

Really is...

Alpha doing your first few months you were going out before you hit your peak, how often were you going out each week?

Just/us I can't really contribute anything the other guys haven't already other than to just throw my 2 cents in and say you've got everything you need to be good at it... looks/personality... I think it's just a matter of getting more practice and like pc said building up a real solid inner game/confidence that people can't help but pick up on. You'll be golden if ya keep it up. You fuckin' young guys... if only this stuff was around when I was your age :)
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Postby Guest » Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:26 am

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Alpha doing your first few months you were going out before you hit your peak, how often were you going out each week?
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3-4 times a week during the summer.

My liver grew chest-hair.
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Postby Guest » Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:36 pm

Haha Alpha that's a sick description
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