Thoughts, advice?

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Alright, so a couple weeks back I was at chaucers in frisco with a couple friends. It was in the day, so it was in restauraunt mode, not night club. There was a table with two girls, one attractive one, one thats ok. I go over, talk to em, get locked in. I talk to em for about an hour or so. I get their numbers. I text the hot one later "bob smith, really? Its ok, I forgive you, you are your friend are cool at least" and she texts back "haha, ya, I know, hes gay" The reason for this was cuz I found out that she used to go out with a guy I used to go to high school with (ya, small world isnt it?), we will call him bob smith here. So, like two days later I text her and say "whats up 'white teeth'?" (reason was I commented on how insanely white her teeth where when I met her. She texts back "haha I'm getting my nails done. Text you after!" well, she never texts back. Whatever.
So a couple days later I text her, here is the convo word for word.
me: green jacket
her: green jacket?
me: isn't that what you wanted for christmas?
her: haha no already have one
me: what are you going to get me for christmas?
her: haha Im going to sleep I got work in morning sorry cant talk.

So, I think we can all agree that was a soft blowout. So I'm like fuck it whatever, and I delete her number.


Well, tonight I am at the theatre watching yes man. I get a call from a number I don't recognize. I answer. There is a girl on the other end asking me what I am doing. I say watching a move, she asks what movie, I tell her, shes like your on the phone during a movie? I'm like ya I was watching it till someone called. Who is this? Then she is like !!you don't have my number in your phone?? I'm gonna go now. She hangs up. Im like ??? So I scroll throw my old texts messages, find the number that called and realize its white teeth from earlier. I call her back and am like hey connie. She asks how I knew it was her if I deleted her number. I tell her I went through the text messages and found her number. I tell her I deleted her number because it seemed like she didn't want to talk. She never texted me back and she said that she always has to sleep when I talk to her. She tells me she sleeps a lot. Then she tells me she has to go, can't talk on the phone and hangs up.

What are your thoughts on this? I gotta say, girls never quit fucking with your head. They are confusing. She won't txt me, yet she calls me up randomly on a friday night. (The last time I texted her was about a week and a half ago) She was probably drunk or something. Anyway, should I drop it? Text her?

[Guest]

I would say she is giving some IOI and who knows whats going on in her head and life. If you want her I would keep texting/ calling at a low time/energy level to build rapport and she may come your way...lol...

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You have to be clear and "man up" at some point and stop being cocky funny about everything.
You view this as a game that you have to win. At some point, playing around and being cocky funny (or whatever) starts to be insecurity.
Girls also have insecurities. They play to win as well. This all stems from the ego.
If the tables were turned, you'd be like WTF is this girl talking about??? White teeth? Green Jacket?
Its cute for a minute or two. At some point, the conversation should be about reality. I know its scary, reality.
Call her up and go "Let's quit playing this game. I like you. Let's get together". Take her on a real date.
If you get blown out, who cares. Next.
But at least you would be getting blown out for asking her out rather than being a goof in a bar. (Much better in my opinion)

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You have to be clear and "man up" at some point and stop being cocky funny about everything.
You view this as a game that you have to win. At some point, playing around and being cocky funny (or whatever) starts to be insecurity.
Girls also have insecurities. They play to win as well. This all stems from the ego.
If the tables were turned, you'd be like WTF is this girl talking about??? White teeth? Green Jacket?
Its cute for a minute or two. At some point, the conversation should be about reality. I know its scary, reality.
Call her up and go "Let's quit playing this game. I like you. Let's get together". Take her on a real date.
If you get blown out, who cares. Next.
But at least you would be getting blown out for asking her out rather than being a goof in a bar. (Much better in my opinion)

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I can see what you are saying about being cocky and funny too much, but I barely know this girl. I talked to her in the restaurant, and two different times over text. The first txt convo was a length of one message from me, and one from her. The second txt convo is above. I think we can agree that I barely know this girl, yes? So I was trying to built the attraction more. And someone in the community recommend I do the green jacket thing as an attention getter (and this guy is highly looked up to in the community, he like has his own fan club), and it works. The white teeth thing was callback humor. We talked in person about how white her teeth where for like 5 mins, its not some random shit I pull out of my ass. And I was trying to ask her out when I was texting her but she kept cutting the convo off. I figured if she wouldn't talk on text, she sure as hell wouldn't talk on the phone.

I might be wrong on this, but I really do not think I went overboard on anything here (yes, in previous posts I have, I will admit to that). But the fact is she got mad at me cuz I deleted her number. not because of some cocky n funny bullshit I may have said. I figured it was going no where because of the lack of texting and talking. I deleted the number because I have a problem with being too needy, if I delete the number, I can't keep bothering her.

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first off, i dont think this is salvagable. i think shes waay to pissed to give you another chance, unless she REALLY likes you. but if youve only talked for a couple hours and had 2 text convos, i dont think that thats the case.

i think she was interested, but truly had things going on. now i can see how you view it as a soft blowout because she was always ending the convo with some bs excuse. what i wouldve done is just freeze her out (esentially what you did when you deleted her number), and if she reinitiated than shes interested (which she did, her phone call). thats why i think she was interested.

now, this may sound AFC, but id call her and and try to set up a date; go direct. if she blows you out, then so what, move on like you wouldve done. if she goes on a date with you, dont even mention anything about deleting her number and act as if nothing happened then just continue to run game. chances are, she will bring it up and unfortunaely, theres nothing you can say or do that will make her not so pissed. BUT if she agrees to go on a date, then you know she likes you. just genuinely apologize and say that youre a busy guy, and didnt want to waste time and effort on a girl that was not interested. now i know it sounds AFC, but i think thats the only way you can get her to calm down a bit. the only problem is that youre setting up a gf frame and you would also be showing her your hand, figuratively speaking. she now has the upperhand and KNOWS you like her or at least is interested in her (which may not be a bad thing is she does indeed like you).

my advice is to say fuck it, continue to sarge and find some other hot bitches. you barely met her and shes not worth all the time, effort, trouble and drama that you will have to deal with.

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I guess moral of the story here is...have a grace period before you delete a number ;)

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When you delete a number, you are closing the book on her. If she calls, she already lost her chance. Why backpedal on your earlier decision? Take 2 things from this, don't delete a number unless you know you want nothing to do with her and if you do delete a number, that's it, she's done, if she calls, treat her with the disinterest that caused you to delete her number in the first place.
I've had girls call months later, I've also cold texted girls after months to invite them to a party, both instances have been positive.

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can you guys give me some input on why she got mad about that? I really didn't think it was that big of a deal.

But heres an update, I txted her and she never replied, so prodigy is correct, this was blown to shit.

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can you guys give me some input on why she got mad about that? I really didn't think it was that big of a deal.

But heres an update, I txted her and she never replied, so prodigy is correct, this was blown to shit.
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she didn't get mad, its gamespeak for "now youre gonna have to try really hard now"

up to you on how you want to proceed

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I'd say she didn't get "mad", its more like you popped her precious "self esteem bubble" when you told her you got rid of her number and that made her feel bad. I would not have told her you got rid of her number nor the reasons behind it. Your initial conversations are very important so don't waste time on negative energy. You want to start off on the right foot, so keep it positive.

Girls love to be chased. She's wanting this, however I'm not sure how bad! I'd back off the player/pua ways and try to be more genuine. But don't go too direct either. I'd build some comfort with her.

And definitely don't text/call her at whatever time isn't working for her.

ps. the green jacket thing sounds lame! :-)