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there are two sides to every story...What is hers? That being said we have discussed how every relationship a pua ends before it should because we have options and we dont give a fuck. dont want any drama. But no relationship works with no fights or arguments. Things were good at one point and are bad now. Why is that? Many other underlying things that need to be discussed before you kick a woman to the curb. Is the foundation solid on which you are trying to build a skyscraper if so the problems can prolly be worked out. If the foundation is weak and you continue without resolving your issue then it is bound to topple like 58% of the marriages in the US do

[Guest]

One more thing and some of you might see this as an attack and I dont mean it that way but im sure some psych people like Sal would back me up on this...A lot of you are damn good at seduction and what it takes to get a women But keeping a women and working the phases after seduction is something a lot of you still need work on. I have seen one of the best of the dallas lair, not mentioning names, recently toppled and in a slump over 1 girl, 1 relationship. And in my opinion he is the best at pickup in this group. There are more phases after pickup and seduction of which some of us are not qualified to ellaborate on. I have made my fair share of mistakes, and have been engaged to be married. My fiance was killed by a drunk driver, I still to this day compare other women to her, which isnt fair to them or to myself. I guess my point is look closely at the relationship (EDIT: IN AN OBEJCTIVE MANNER) before you take anyones advice

[Guest]

To me it is irrelevant what the girl's side of the story is. Whether CJ was a total dick to her and she was a saint or she was a total bitch is irrelevant. No matter who is 'at fault' here (if anyone), it's pretty obvious that they will never get along in a way that's going to satisfy a stable, long term relationship. My experience from myself and from everyone I know who is married is this:

Whatever relationship problems you have before marriage are going to get 100x worse afterwards. Every flaw you see hinted at, every underlying problem that causes fights, whatever, is going to get WAY worse. If you are in a drama filled relationship prior to marriage, then you are going to be in a doomed marriage. And I agree that when people are emotional they drop their guard and their filter and generally tell you what they feel deep down. This also comes out MUCH more after you are married. That's why there are so many unhappily married people. Yes any relationship is going to require some work and effort to be a success, but it shouldn't be a constant work of frustration to make that happen. And you have to ask yourself: Is that what you really want your life to be? For me the answer was FUCK NO.

CJ if you ever got to a point in the relationship where these problems were dealt with, then MAYBE you might consider getting married to her, but until you do it shouldn't even be a consideration. That being said, you haven't really listened to our advice before so not sure you will now.

Also, if you really care about someone there is nothing wrong with helping them get back on their feet rather than kicking them to the curb, but just because they haven't moved out yet doesn't mean you have to be in a relationship with them.