Guy Game

[Guest]

I've made a lot of progress over the past few months, mostly with body Language, and Eye contact both of which are surprising to me how powerful they are. My problem is when I try to go further than an opener, Transitioning and DHVing...I believe it's because I don't have anything interesting going on in my life. I can't talk about the Awesome thing that Me and My friends did, when we didn't do anything awesome. How do I make cool, interesting friends who go out and live interesting lives? I guess I can say this is the main reason why I joined the community in the first place. I want to learn how to be sociable and make strong friendship with high-value people, but I'm always stuck in the box of indifference... it's like a group of co-workers/classmates/whatever are talking about something they're going to do and I'm around so they're like, "oh, hey, Muk, you can come too" I'm never the guy that people want to be around but instead they just don't mind if I am around. The only close friends that I have are boring and I feel like I'm too high of value to be around them yet, I have no friends who match my value so I'm stuck in snore-ville with them.
I want to be the guy That people invite to parties I want people to say "Oh, Fuck yeah! Muk is coming!" istead of "Oh, Muk is coming? Oh, ok...that's cool" I want to be the Shining Man that the guys want to be like and the women look to with stars in their eyes.
I'm Too honest of a person to lie and I have a deep loathing for anything fake or unnatural and because of this, I could never be a "Marlboro Man". I have to be this guy instead of faking it in an attempt to make women sleep with me.
What are some qualities that guys look for in a friend? how do I go about making a friend without looking like some queer? What do high-value guys (or girls too) talk about? I went back to school with "Learning how to socialize" being one of my goals, yet, I've gotten nowhere...

[Guest]

have some hobbies. you just gotta have something besides women in your life to keep you sane.

[Guest]

for women its simple, be really funny.

for men, youll want to be good at gaming women.

become a leader of men, (part of the reason why to many pua's spoil the soup) you must get the men of the group to look up to you, show them a video of you nailing some chick or pics of women youve dated, good dirty jokes, be fun and always be funny and the center of attention.

those are some of the ways that i use

[Guest]

Be a value GIVER instead of a value TAKER.

Don't be the guy who wants to get invited to the party, THROW the fucking party.

Seriously, can you throw a party? I'm in the mood for a killer house party.

[Guest]

[quote1220968649=Finesse]become a leader of men, (part of the reason why to many pua's spoil the soup) you must get the men of the group to look up to you, show them a video of you nailing some chick or pics of women youve dated, good dirty jokes, be fun and always be funny and the center of attention.[/quote1220968649]

Gonna disagree Fin. I wouldn't talk too much about your exploits, doing so just causes you to loose credibility. If you do talk about that stuff always do so in passing.

Don't really agree with the center of attention aspect either. Being the center of attention simply gets annoying.

Getting guys to look up to is as simple as doing instead of talking. If you're in a group of guys and you're all talking about going up to some hottie but you do it it creates that leader status. There are a million examples to this type of thing.

[Guest]

I agree with grimm,you got to throw the party. Whne I first started out I got myself 3-4 people ho always were partying and throwing parties and just pitched in money for alcohol and we threw parties every weekend.Trust me if you do that your social circle will expand exponentially.

I have the issue sright now. My current friends are freaking boring and I do not meet a lot of people who match my value. But I am starting to. Right now I am busy with amassing an army of bisexual women to go out with :)

[Guest]

I second that grimm... i'm ready for a good party too :)

You can expect me to be throwing one pretty soon... i decided before i took my 'break' a while back that when the divorce was final (should be in a week or two since the 2 month waiting period is up in a week) I'm going to throw a party to celebrate... also getting a tattoo to mark the occasion... possibly on the same night... who knows :)

i don't know enough people in dallas to invite... but that's where you guys come in ;)

[Guest]

I do a little of what a few people have said here.

1) I initiate the good time. I'm not necessarily throwing a party at my crib, but I will call people on a regular basis to see what they are up to, and tell them I'm doing something this weekend, and they should come do it w/ me. Like I did with you for a bit, Muk (before you fell off the face of the planet!)

2) I'll admit I still have my dancing monkey moments (mainly when I've had one too many Redbull Vodkas...) But, I tend to do more social circle merging now...get people talking to people within my party, talk to them on a more personal level (instead of clanking my cymbals together as I entertain the entire crowd.)

3) You're a guy. You know what guys like. Learn some thing about them so you can carry on conversations. Girls, Sports, male fashion, non-sports social events, music, recent events (non-religious or political), etc etc.

**This next one is one of my personal suggestions. Many might not agree, but I see it work for lots of people with little effort**

4) Watch funny shit, and quote it. If you find that you're not a terribly humorous individual, steal material from others! Now, don't go out to a bar and talk non-stop to every woman who walks past like you're Ron Burgandy, but joking that ,"their brain is 1/2 the size of ours, it's science" mid conversation will do nothing but help you along...unless she's as starched as an 85 yr old business man.

5) I haven't hung out with you in a while, but there was one HUGE thing I noticed with you...your body language and general aura were 5000000000% better when I got you shit faced. When sober you came off scared, uncomfortable, and would only smile 2 steps away from a set! You stated that you've improved in this area, so that's bad ass!!! Keep on truckin'

If I think of more, I'll update this...I gotta get back to my exchange migration : (

[Guest]

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I second that grimm... i'm ready for a good party too :)

You can expect me to be throwing one pretty soon... i decided before i took my 'break' a while back that when the divorce was final (should be in a week or two since the 2 month waiting period is up in a week) I'm going to throw a party to celebrate... also getting a tattoo to mark the occasion... possibly on the same night... who knows :)

i don't know enough people in dallas to invite... but that's where you guys come in ;)
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Dude, you're doing it all wrong! You're supposed to be locked up in the bathroom sobbing while masturbating to the scent of a bra that she left behind. Not celebrating!

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I do a little of what a few people have said here.

1) I initiate the good time. I'm not necessarily throwing a party at my crib, but I will call people on a regular basis to see what they are up to, and tell them I'm doing something this weekend, and they should come do it w/ me. Like I did with you for a bit, Muk (before you fell off the face of the planet!)

[b] Yeah...$1500 worth of traffic ticket warrants and a lost ID does that to a guy T.T[/b]

3) You're a guy. You know what guys like. Learn some thing about them so you can carry on conversations. Girls, Sports, male fashion, non-sports social events, music, recent events (non-religious or political), etc etc.

[b] dunno...most guys aren't in to asian cartoons and Videogames with words. I can talk about cars all day, but thanks to the pussification of the American male nowadays, most guys I try to talk to about it don't seem interested or they're talking about some wimpy douchemobile with "luxurious interior" it's like I'd mention the new Corvette ZR1 and they'd be like "it sucks, look at that interior!" wtf!?[/b]
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