Nice guys finish last? (repost:thanks to Matrix Method)

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Postby Guest » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:12 pm

++++I know how it feels to be the nice guy who never gets any play so when a nice guy finally gets his girl, I'm going to tear him down and screw his woman, and put their relationship in jeaprody? that's not cool...++++

We all know how it feels. There are no natural alpha males here. If we were naturals, we wouldn't be here trying to learn how to be alpha.

I agree, it's not cool that someone else would fuck your girl.

Welcome to life in the adulterous generation.

Realize, that just because you "nice out" with a girl and stop chasing other women and go exclusive with her, your "game", your female options, quickly erode into nothingness. Approaching and seducing women is a skill. Without continued practice, your skill-set quickly deteriorates.

She, on the other hand, just has to look pretty and show up to a social event. She still has just as many potential male suitors approaching her while in the relationship as she did before. Her male options remain the same, but soon, she's your ONLY female option. Eventually, she'll get bored with you and either cheat or break-up with you, and she's sure to have a rebound readily available to fuck her brains out the day she gives you the "LJBF" speech. Your left heart broken and depressed, women don't want a depressed guy and to top it all off you have no skills to go out and meet new women.

The deck is SEVERELY stacked in the woman's favor.

So why do I want to fuck some other guy's girl? To serve as a constant reminder of this. Next time I start feeling like a beta-male schmuck, and start thinking of excuses to exit the game and take on an exclusive girlfriend, all the married women I bedded MIGHT make me stop and think twice before making such a mistake.

The game never ends. You're ALWAYS competing for the girl, whether you have a ring on her finger or not. Other guys don't care, they're still gonna try to fuck your girl.
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Postby Guest » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:41 pm

[quote1215811559=Alphagame]
++++I know how it feels to be the nice guy who never gets any play so when a nice guy finally gets his girl, I'm going to tear him down and screw his woman, and put their relationship in jeaprody? that's not cool...++++

We all know how it feels. There are no natural alpha males here. If we were naturals, we wouldn't be here trying to learn how to be alpha.

I agree, it's not cool that someone else would fuck your girl.

Welcome to life in the adulterous generation.

Realize, that just because you "nice out" with a girl and stop chasing other women and go exclusive with her, your "game", your female options, quickly erode into nothingness. Approaching and seducing women is a skill. Without continued practice, your skill-set quickly deteriorates.

She, on the other hand, just has to look pretty and show up to a social event. She still has just as many potential male suitors approaching her while in the relationship as she did before. Her male options remain the same, but soon, she's your ONLY female option. Eventually, she'll get bored with you and either cheat or break-up with you, and she's sure to have a rebound readily available to fuck her brains out the day she gives you the "LJBF" speech. Your left heart broken and depressed, women don't want a depressed guy and to top it all off you have no skills to go out and meet new women.

The deck is SEVERELY stacked in the woman's favor.

So why do I want to fuck some other guy's girl? To serve as a constant reminder of this. Next time I start feeling like a beta-male schmuck, and start thinking of excuses to exit the game and take on an exclusive girlfriend, all the married women I bedded MIGHT make me stop and think twice before making such a mistake.
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Your argument borders on the absurd. If you don't want to get into a relationship then fine - don't. I can't agree with your inherent distrust of women and misogynistic attitude. It all sounds very confused.

Why would your girlfriend / wife become the only female option you have? If you take care of yourself and your life you will always have more and better options as a desirable male. There just aren't that many cool guys around. Most guys really don't understand much about the female psyche.

[quote1215811559=Alphagame]
The game never ends. You're ALWAYS competing for the girl, whether you have a ring on her finger or not. Other guys don't care, they're still gonna try to fuck your girl.
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Caring about what other guys do/think/try/etc.. is not a desirable trait.
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Postby Guest » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:18 pm

++++Why would your girlfriend / wife become the only female option you have?++++

Meeting women and seducing them is a skill, is it not? Unless you're out practicing your skills on a regular basis, your skills deteriorate. And if your practicing your skills during an exclusive relationship, you're cheating, aren't you? I don't think any of us want to be the cheating liar.

As for caring about what other men are doing to get your girl in bed, there's nothing you can do. If you act jealous, she'll be instinctively repulsed and more likely to cheat. I guess the only move is to ignore it and hope for the best. That's what I did in my marriage, but it didn't work. That said, I do think it's important to realize that other men are trying to fuck your girl. It happens. Don't obsess over it and dwell on it, but do at least realize it.

As married men get further and further checked out of the game, it's an easy thing to overlook and forget. That's probably why most married men don't wear cool clothes, don't have cool hair cuts, don't go to the gym, don't eat right, etc. They don't feel like they're still competing with other men, but in reality, they still are...other men are still trying to fuck their wives, they just don't realize it.
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Postby Guest » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:58 pm

I'm not trying to get into a moral debate. This is a seduction forum so can we stay on topic? Of course it is a skill and of obviously you lose it without practice.

My suprise is with your apparent anger at the situation. You feel the deck is stacked against you. What do you do? Would you play that game in Vegas?

It would seem to me more productive to internalize the realities of the world and make better decisions based on those realities. Do you really need to fuck married women to prevent yourself from getting in a serious relationship again? Maybe its just me but that doesn't seem to be a great plan when it would be so much simpler to go after the single ones. Why would you want to spread bad karma when you don't have to? If she is married and didn't tell you that's one thing. If you go after her and you know she is married (not just flirt) that is kinda bogus to me. That was the point of the fake "boyfriend" distinction. And how women use that.
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Postby Guest » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:26 pm

Alpha said some very, very accurate things in his post. I don't think we should discount them at all.

I was in a semi LTR with a great chick and she asked me why I continue to run 'Game'. Why am I so active in the Dallas seduction group?

The answer.

Because no girl, of quality, approaches me. Sometimes it's nice to go to a venue, be social, run some Game to get that feedback. Do I need it? NO. But, girls don't NEED random guys hitting on them at the gas station. That doesn't mean that they aren't flattered by the approach, the effort.
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Postby Guest » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:47 pm

Gents, as far as I'm concerned, there is a line in what we do. It can be crossed.Some guys want to mess with married or engaged women.

Guys do what you will, but ,as for me, I dont do that sort of thing.

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Postby Guest » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:28 pm

[quote1215836889=El Fenix]
Gents, as far as I'm concerned, there is a line in what we do. It can be crossed.Some guys want to mess with married or engaged women.

Guys do what you will, but ,as for me, I dont do that sort of thing.


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And, that's why you are a stand up guy.
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Postby Guest » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:52 am

thats also why I walked away from a set tonight that was on, but she had a husband in Iraq.

She was hott, but man, how can you fuk a girl who;s husband is serving the country? I cant do it

Note: I was drunk as hell when I posted this. I might have been slightly delusional about how "on" it was, but probably not by much.
When a girl, whos pretty sober, tells a clearly drunk guy hitting on her, in regards to her husband "it's been 4 months of this bullshite, and I'm not ready for 8 more", theres an opening there ;)
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Postby Guest » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:38 am

So this is what you do to have a girl who is just a friend. Man I always wondered. I have never had just a friend.

Geeze I really need to start doing this. I want a girl who is just a friend. That would be awesome.

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Postby Guest » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:51 am

PC...split it half and half. Just friends do alot of good...more than you might think
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