Exercise - The Magic Pill?

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Thought you guys might enjoy debating this issue.

Here's a fantastic article on how exercise/fitness affects sex drive and performance.
[url]http://style.uk.msn.com/sexandrelationships/inthebedroom/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5745779[/url]

I've decided to stop going to the bar for three months. I'll try to keep up my skills by day sarges. I'm on a three month hiatus which has me running 3-4 miles a day plus lifting in the gym and trying to improve my overall physique.

Any comments welcome. Anyone had positive results from gym work?

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Thought you guys might enjoy debating this issue.

Here's a fantastic article on how exercise/fitness affects sex drive and performance.
[url]http://style.uk.msn.com/sexandrelationships/inthebedroom/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5745779[/url]

I've decided to stop going to the bar for three months. I'll try to keep up my skills by day sarges. I'm on a three month hiatus which has me running 3-4 miles a day plus lifting in the gym and trying to improve my overall physique.

Any comments welcome. Anyone had positive results from gym work?

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absolutely.

It's hard [i]not [/i]to go to the gym and have it not just transform your whole day, attitude, spirit, outlook, and energy levels once you get into it and you aren't new to an exercise regimen.

Nothing breeds confidence like getting your body in shape either. you walk taller, carry yourself better, clothes fit better, translates to more women, more frequent and better sex.

THat said, lately i've spent too much time with the bottle/bars, too little time in the gym, and i've paying the price from that equation. I'm trying to get back in the routine desperately, but life demands are making it more and more difficult, and i really miss the way I used to feel when routinely working out.

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I found that lifting weights and doing cardio really puts me in a better mood. [b]If I get depressed about something and then go get on the treadmill for 30-40 minutes I always feel better. This to me is one of the biggest benefits of exercise.[/b] I think I read somewhere that exercise is scientifically proven to reduce depression.

If you are in good shape women definitely notice it. I'm not quite where I want to be , but in the past, the times that I was in really good shape also happened to be the times when I got the most women. And they would tell me things like they liked my arms or say oh you have a really flat stomach.

As much as I do think women like muscles one thing I have notice and have never heard anyone comment on is the fact that I think being thin..........that is not being fat, not having a beer belly is very important to most women. I've seen a lot of guys that are really good at picking up women and they aren't muscular but they are thin. Look at Mystery he's not buff ( and Playercool and PicturePerfect too!) , but he is thin. [b]I think a lot of women can go without muscles, but they won't put up with fat[/b]. I've had cute women tell me that I have nice arms and chest but that I have littlbe bit of a beer belly. I was crushed, but in a way is was good to learn that tha's what they noticed. I'm still working on it......I'm not one of those super skinny guys.

I've also notice that when guys are super lean even tiny muscles stand out. you ever see that move "Roadhouse" with patrick swayze doing all his pseudo karate shit? At first glance he looks really muscular and big, but if you pay attention he's actually pretty puny, just lean as hell and his tiny muscles really stand out. Just an observation.

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[b]I think a lot of women can go without muscles, but they won't put up with fat[/b].
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I'm going to go out on a limb here. I've been in the game for quite a few years, and feel like a reached a pretty comparable,successful level back then to where i'm at now, minus about 3 years LTR in between then and now. So what i'm saying is...remove the 'game' variables. Fast forward 3 years and addition of about 20-25 pounds of fat and i for a fact know the difference in my game and results i get that it plays. As much as the community wants to think it doesn't play a role, it of course does.

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yeah i wasn't saying you can't be overweight and get chicks............it's just makes it more difficult

i'm sure we've all seen fat dudes with hot chicks, you just don't see it alot.

personally i've struggles with weight issues on and off over the years and always seem to do better when I keep my weight down.

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Since I've been in this community I've lost about 30 lbs. I'm actually 3 lbs. under my Freshamn year/Fraternity years weight...and I'll attest that it's way easier when the weight is down. It does a total rework on your confidence and initial visual attraction makes the earlier parts of your set a cake walk.

I know it's not easy to get even in reasonable shape, but I think if you respect yourself enough you'd want to. Once I respected myself enough, the weight dropped off in a fairly quick amount of time (and in a healthy manner might I add. lol)

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It helps because it makes you feel better, even if you don't see any external results you feel better mentally.

Also, it's a great way to release all of your anxiety and anger and what not in a very healthy way.

Finally, if you do see external benefits, which if you're doing it hard endough and correctly you will, it will raise your value as a man. Most people don't bother to work out on a regular basis. The fact that you do says a lot about you:

1) You care about how you look and your health
2) You're willing to work to achieve your goals
3) You're a man of action...i.e. you'd rather run than sit and watch TV
4) You hold yourself to the same standards that you hold others
5) You talk the talk and walk the walk

I think everyone should have some type of work out regiment incorporated into their lives, especially PUAs. It's not all about routines, stacks, cold reads, openers, closing, etc. It's also about doing things that make you stand out from the average man, it's about raising your value. Working out is just one of those things.

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I've been working out for 6 weeks now. Lifting weights and running my ass off. When I go to the lake I get stares from both men and women. Im not where I want to be, but Im well on my way. I feel fucking awsome!

One point I would like to make relates to diet. Icosolese Cheese (sp sry dude) needs to chime in here. The biggest change Ive seen in my physique is because of diet. I no longer eat fried anything or junk food. No chips, cookies, soda(not even diet), candy, or fast food. Lots of fish, chicken, tuna, salads, fruits, veggies, and water. Shit loads of water. Did I mention how awsome I feel?

In the mornings when I get up, I can tell how well I did the day before from how I look in the mirror and is because of diet. Work through the pain. Maintain your diet. Dont give up if you slip. Just get it back together and start anew. Kick that ass! It feels sooo good!

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Wow this is great.

I was thinking you guys would flame me for posting on this but it seems just the opposite with an almost unanimous support for the idea!

Exercise and fitness seems to be the most overlooked thing in pickup/seduction community.
There's a focus on everything else but exercise, fitness and health.

Check out Adam's blog.
[url]http://realtimephysique.wordpress.com/[/url]

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Been hitting the gym (weights only, no cardio) an average 3 days per week for 14 months and I haven't eaten anything fried in over a year. No cokes. No snacks in my house, either. Very healthy diet.

Lots of beer though.

All I know is, I'm getting WAY more tail today at 38 then I ever dreamed of getting in college. For the last year or so, women are eye fucking me everywhere I go, though I must admit, the "fuck-me" eyes are way more intense depending on what clothes I'm wearing. They're also more obvious with women in my age group, but I still get plenty of attraction with the 20-somethings and even the teenage girls.

Which brings me to my next point...bring women with you when you buy your clothes and let them pick them out. They do MUCH better than we could dream of doing on our own. This is HUGELY important.

All I know is, at the time of divorce, before I cared about the gym or what I was wearing, I never got "fuck-me" eyes. There was an entire decade I pissed away being married and checked out on life. So, I assure you guys, I'm not dreaming up these "fuck-me" eyes. It's real. Women are checking me out.

After a year of this, I'm finally getting to where my mind is caught up with my looks. The mind takes a lot longer than your body to get adjusted. Until you believe you are the shit, women still won't be interested, so I'd say your "inner game" is still way more important than your looks.

Lastly, realize the rule of 80/20. 80% of your improvement will come through diet, only 20% will come through the gym. And I can guarantee that. I hit the gym hard back in 2000 at the age of 30 but didn't change my diet. I might as well have skipped the gym. The results just weren't worth it. Diet is critical. And that's what makes this kind of improvement so incredible in our society...most men view not eating meat & (fried) potatoes as girlish or sissy-like on some level, so most men eat whatever the fuck they want...the guy with diet and exercise stands out BIG TIME in the great (fatass) state of Texas!!!

One other thing, if you're able to do this consistently, don't set your goal of doing XXXX amount of weight or gaining XXXX amount of pounds. I'm 5-11 and only 176 pounds. Women love the way I look, but I've talked with a lot of women and they don't like the huge, stalky, body-builder physique as much. There's a lot of guys my height who are lean as hell and a lot stronger and bigger, but women aren't as attracted to that, imo.