2007 Alpha-Omega Rosé:
Cabernet Sauvignon 75% Merlot 17% Cabernet Franc 8%
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by Guest » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:16 pm
[quote1213811373=SonShyne]
I have never drank "rose" please explain. I see the blend but most blends taht i have drank were 50/50
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Ok, wine juice is relatively clear. White wine is typically made with white or blush colored grapes, and they leave the skins in which make that tart, pucker like finish from "tannin.". (Champagne is made from black grapes)
Rose is made from dark colored grapes (at least some portion), and after they de-stem and crush (maybe press if you drink garbage) then they leave the skins in for a while, and begin the fermentation process by introducing yeast. Then for a quality rose (pronounced rozay)they pull the skins, leaving that orange to amber to blush - to red color. Then fermentation continues, then they let it set in a separation tank to pull the solids through finning (usually egg-whites, ox blood, or whey curd), barrel age (hopefully in French Oak), then bottle. Rose doesn't always need years to mature in the bottle because of the lack of tannin introduction and a vinification process during fermentation and holding to express the fruit structure as a byproduct of removing the tannic agents earlier than most.
A blend is any bottle which has more than 16% of an additional grape in the wine. So you can have a Cabernet that is 86% cab, 14% petit verdot. Cuvee basically means the same thing, but it must be done in the old tradition where the grapes of each varietal are crushed together, rather than blending the wine later, which is what amateurs do and you should make fun of these people because they don't celebrate the art of wine making. Very few wineries actually follow the cuvee process because its much easier to taste test by combining grape juice on the fly, rather than determining the portion and crushing the grapes together, then waiting 6 months to check the blend or "fix" their shitty product. However some regions like Walla Walla, Yakima, and Columbia River are basically mad scientists, don't follow convention, and produce some really, really phenomenal, cutting edge wine that is revolutionizing the art.
Rose is pretty much a lost varietal in this nation. I'm getting to the point now that I'm tired of American whites, and will pretty much only drink white wines from Burgundy style grapes, or Dry Creek Fume Blanc, but I'm really hot for Rose right now too. You get much more complexity in the fruit structure, less alcohol which doesn't mask the palate as much, and frankly, if you see a guy drinking a rose in a bar, I bet he's a in the wine culture. Next time you're out, or even better if you're out with a girl and she want (god forbid) a white zin, introduce her to a rose and she'll appreciate the refined Dionysian elixir.
Cheap shit garbage white zin is a joke, and should never be consumed because everyone will make fun of you for having no taste. For that garbage, wine makers (oxymoron) take crappy wine that had a bad yeast exposure, dead fermentation, or even just all the shit grapes that weren't worthy of a bottle, smash them, throw in loads of yeast to ferment then introduce additonal sugar to produce higher alcohol content levels to dumb down the taste, then introduce a sweetener to hide the garbage taste. This wine began as a waste product of dead fermentations.
/more than you ever wanted to know
I have never drank "rose" please explain. I see the blend but most blends taht i have drank were 50/50
[/quote1213811373]
Ok, wine juice is relatively clear. White wine is typically made with white or blush colored grapes, and they leave the skins in which make that tart, pucker like finish from "tannin.". (Champagne is made from black grapes)
Rose is made from dark colored grapes (at least some portion), and after they de-stem and crush (maybe press if you drink garbage) then they leave the skins in for a while, and begin the fermentation process by introducing yeast. Then for a quality rose (pronounced rozay)they pull the skins, leaving that orange to amber to blush - to red color. Then fermentation continues, then they let it set in a separation tank to pull the solids through finning (usually egg-whites, ox blood, or whey curd), barrel age (hopefully in French Oak), then bottle. Rose doesn't always need years to mature in the bottle because of the lack of tannin introduction and a vinification process during fermentation and holding to express the fruit structure as a byproduct of removing the tannic agents earlier than most.
A blend is any bottle which has more than 16% of an additional grape in the wine. So you can have a Cabernet that is 86% cab, 14% petit verdot. Cuvee basically means the same thing, but it must be done in the old tradition where the grapes of each varietal are crushed together, rather than blending the wine later, which is what amateurs do and you should make fun of these people because they don't celebrate the art of wine making. Very few wineries actually follow the cuvee process because its much easier to taste test by combining grape juice on the fly, rather than determining the portion and crushing the grapes together, then waiting 6 months to check the blend or "fix" their shitty product. However some regions like Walla Walla, Yakima, and Columbia River are basically mad scientists, don't follow convention, and produce some really, really phenomenal, cutting edge wine that is revolutionizing the art.
Rose is pretty much a lost varietal in this nation. I'm getting to the point now that I'm tired of American whites, and will pretty much only drink white wines from Burgundy style grapes, or Dry Creek Fume Blanc, but I'm really hot for Rose right now too. You get much more complexity in the fruit structure, less alcohol which doesn't mask the palate as much, and frankly, if you see a guy drinking a rose in a bar, I bet he's a in the wine culture. Next time you're out, or even better if you're out with a girl and she want (god forbid) a white zin, introduce her to a rose and she'll appreciate the refined Dionysian elixir.
Cheap shit garbage white zin is a joke, and should never be consumed because everyone will make fun of you for having no taste. For that garbage, wine makers (oxymoron) take crappy wine that had a bad yeast exposure, dead fermentation, or even just all the shit grapes that weren't worthy of a bottle, smash them, throw in loads of yeast to ferment then introduce additonal sugar to produce higher alcohol content levels to dumb down the taste, then introduce a sweetener to hide the garbage taste. This wine began as a waste product of dead fermentations.
/more than you ever wanted to know
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by Guest » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:59 pm
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You know your stuff.
I wish I liked wine. I have never developed a taste for it. I just really enjoy the ambiance of having people over and drinking wine. Need to figure out how to like the stuff.
[/quote1213850467]
I think the first wine I drank and actually enjoyed was a Sancerre (french Sauv Blanc, or what some american vintners label as Fume Blanc). Then I tried Gagliardo Borolo, then Faively Gevrey Chaimbertin Pinot, then it just exploded and I started exploring.
If you want to get started drinking wine, have no shame. When you develop your palate to appreciate wine, well...it will ruin your life, lol. Don't be afraid to go into Mercy or your local Siegels on Beltline, which has an awesome selection and tell them that you want to learn wine. They will get you started with some really cheap stuff, and gradually you'll learn what you do and don't like.
I would start you off on a rose with a lot of color actually. They are soft on tannin, and big on fruit flavor, which is easy to drink for starters. Then, I recommend you but a bottle of "Firesteed" Pinot Noir. Its a cheap Oregon wine that is very light, and very mellow and only $14 per bottle and you can get it at grocery stores, and it basically will set you up to appreciate some American Oak and more mature flavors of soft red fruits and maybe a little tobacco or milk chocolate with some spice. Now you know enough to be dangerous. If you like the fruit in that, get a bottle of J Jacaman Pinot which is jammy and fruity...I don't like it. If you want something with a more earthy and a bit more masculine, get a bottle of Guigal Cote du Rhone. Its a french pinot with a strong terrior (unique taste of chalky, rocky, french soil). It has strong cues of Mushroom, truffle, and soil on the nose, a strong flint, strong fruit, and stronger spice, round on the palate, with a long-strong finish with medium tannin to balance the fruit. Its a world class wine you can pick up for $22. Then, if you're really feeling like a man, get a bottle of "dry Creek Vineyard old vine zin." This is where the big boys come out to play. Its a 92 point zin from 80+ year old vines that produces a strong fruit, earthy, spicy, clove taste, thin on the palate, with a bold, short finish. Its a robust wine that I liked so much I bought 6 when I was out there. You can get it at goody goody for $28 and its my table wine.
So start with a cheap bottle of a dark rose and a bottle of that firesteed and let me know what you think. I know, sorry about the long post, I can go on and on about wine. Its my passion 2nd only to motorsports.
You know your stuff.
I wish I liked wine. I have never developed a taste for it. I just really enjoy the ambiance of having people over and drinking wine. Need to figure out how to like the stuff.
[/quote1213850467]
I think the first wine I drank and actually enjoyed was a Sancerre (french Sauv Blanc, or what some american vintners label as Fume Blanc). Then I tried Gagliardo Borolo, then Faively Gevrey Chaimbertin Pinot, then it just exploded and I started exploring.
If you want to get started drinking wine, have no shame. When you develop your palate to appreciate wine, well...it will ruin your life, lol. Don't be afraid to go into Mercy or your local Siegels on Beltline, which has an awesome selection and tell them that you want to learn wine. They will get you started with some really cheap stuff, and gradually you'll learn what you do and don't like.
I would start you off on a rose with a lot of color actually. They are soft on tannin, and big on fruit flavor, which is easy to drink for starters. Then, I recommend you but a bottle of "Firesteed" Pinot Noir. Its a cheap Oregon wine that is very light, and very mellow and only $14 per bottle and you can get it at grocery stores, and it basically will set you up to appreciate some American Oak and more mature flavors of soft red fruits and maybe a little tobacco or milk chocolate with some spice. Now you know enough to be dangerous. If you like the fruit in that, get a bottle of J Jacaman Pinot which is jammy and fruity...I don't like it. If you want something with a more earthy and a bit more masculine, get a bottle of Guigal Cote du Rhone. Its a french pinot with a strong terrior (unique taste of chalky, rocky, french soil). It has strong cues of Mushroom, truffle, and soil on the nose, a strong flint, strong fruit, and stronger spice, round on the palate, with a long-strong finish with medium tannin to balance the fruit. Its a world class wine you can pick up for $22. Then, if you're really feeling like a man, get a bottle of "dry Creek Vineyard old vine zin." This is where the big boys come out to play. Its a 92 point zin from 80+ year old vines that produces a strong fruit, earthy, spicy, clove taste, thin on the palate, with a bold, short finish. Its a robust wine that I liked so much I bought 6 when I was out there. You can get it at goody goody for $28 and its my table wine.
So start with a cheap bottle of a dark rose and a bottle of that firesteed and let me know what you think. I know, sorry about the long post, I can go on and on about wine. Its my passion 2nd only to motorsports.
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by Guest » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:11 am
sorry, gotta whore some pics of my January wine trip this year...not the May one, lol:
5-days here alone, complimentary too.
[img]http://a785.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/74/l_3b4e6a0831027ca345efe9bbb32a8f10.jpg[/img]
[img]http://a764.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/69/l_1e877b3c151817967badecf05c5066b3.jpg[/img]
rocking out...this has never been done in Sonoma
[img]http://a214.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/30/l_e17fc3fc57f0faae587a929990de8d7d.jpg[/img]
from the porch
[img]http://a287.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/94/l_3c87f681f6d1d5ca66086664e962ab26.jpg[/img]
the facility:
[img]http://a679.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/84/l_450c072bb7ceac279809fcc64503907e.jpg[/img]
grapes grow here:
[img]http://a837.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/72/l_60fd9645e700f3a5e7a2e2ec2ae1b014.jpg[/img]
done with show and tell
5-days here alone, complimentary too.
[img]http://a785.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/74/l_3b4e6a0831027ca345efe9bbb32a8f10.jpg[/img]
[img]http://a764.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/69/l_1e877b3c151817967badecf05c5066b3.jpg[/img]
rocking out...this has never been done in Sonoma
[img]http://a214.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/30/l_e17fc3fc57f0faae587a929990de8d7d.jpg[/img]
from the porch
[img]http://a287.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/94/l_3c87f681f6d1d5ca66086664e962ab26.jpg[/img]
the facility:
[img]http://a679.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/84/l_450c072bb7ceac279809fcc64503907e.jpg[/img]
grapes grow here:
[img]http://a837.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/72/l_60fd9645e700f3a5e7a2e2ec2ae1b014.jpg[/img]
done with show and tell
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