Getting over FIRST IMPRESSION

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To start off, i am of very much Asian. (i don't have accent ) And secondly i know that physical appearance doesn't really matter when i comes to picking up girls. So here is what i encounter when i go out. I usually will go out to clubs where the crowd is majority Asian. I feel way more comfortable hitting on asian chicks. But i have gone to more mix places and hit on other ethnicity. I have noticed that when i do hit on chick , other then asian, i seem to have to work WAY WAY harder to build attraction, comfort, number close, ect. It just seem like women see an asian guy and are already turned off. I admit i like having a challenge, and i love it when i turn them around and they end up all over me. But probably about 65% of the time it really doesn't go that well. But its not like i get totally blow out. When i hit on Asian chicks its probably 35% it doesn't go anywhere. It seem to be a big difference to me. So i was just wondering if you guys experience this also, and how you deal with it. And i know you guys can't experience being Asian hitting on other ethnicity. But like short guys hitting on taller chick, over weight on slimmer girls, Old guys hitting on way younger, younger on older. hope you get my point. I was just wonder. Maybe there a way i haven't thought of to speed things up a little.

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see post "any black PUAs out therer??" I'm in the same boat as you, bro...but I think I'm starting to figure things out...

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Hey... some people like dark meat. Some people like white meat. Women are particular. It's not so much that they don't find other ethnicities attractive. You just have to realize a LARGE majority of women are attracted to what their father looks like.

I think the pressures and barriers are built up higher because you're not just battling their belief.. but, the belief of their community, friends, family, and PARENTS. So you're getting the behavior that's similar to a woman throwing up walls not wanting to be perceived as a slut. ( comparison to resistance, nothing to do with different ethnicities )

I'm a white guy.. I like all beautiful women. But, I guarantee you if we go to this club of yours I experience the same thing you're talking about. WHAT'S YOUR GUESS ON THAT ONE?

Familiarity breeds comfort.. most of these girls are not familiar with other cultures. EVEN if they are open to them.

I think it's basic.. but, you have to open their eyes and show them a different world. When you're out.. you don't have long to do this.

I started dating colombian women. The men in their culture have it so easy. Its acceptable to walk up to a woman and say.. Hey sexy girl.. you look so good. I love you.. I've got to be with you. Your eyes are so incredible. You can lay it on thick... and I kind of admire being able to not apologize for being a man. I'm actually kind of considering utilizing a very straight forward approach in my game here. Or keep seeing Colombian women!

My other advice is that sometimes you have to morph close to another cultures image. I.E. brothers that seem to have the most success outside their race are able to achieve a less ethnic look.

Silly as if sounds.. when I shaved my head... and q'balled it. I had many many many sisters coming after me. But, with nappy stringy white guy hair. The interest dwindles significantly.

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I'm batting a thousand with the Asian chics....bedded every single one I approached.......... at the massage parlor!

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For what it's worth, I've never had a lot of luck with Asian girls. I'm in the same boat..but in reverse.

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And secondly i know that physical appearance doesn't really matter when i comes to picking up girls.[/quote1210256512]

I honestly hate this misnomer in the community. Frankly, it's bullshit. My theory is that women have 'types.' They are generally attracted to the same type of guys, although they will be attracted to a wide variety of men based on their quality level.

The women that go for me tend to go for other guys that have similar physical attributes as me. Now, within the subset of guys that have similar physical attributes as I do women WILL compromise quality of looks as long as the guy still meets the general type criteria.

So if a girl likes a slender guy, blonde, tall, and wears glasses then she's typically going to date a guy that has those attributes. Now, she may date a 3 or a 10 within that subset as long as he meets those attributes.

The harsh reality is that a lot of women simply won't date a white guy, Asian, black, Hispanic, etc. They just won't. Some chicks will only date certain ethnicities.

Looks don't matter, type does. If you aren't someone's type, then you've got an uphill battle on your hands.

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I agree that type is a tough battle to overcome.

It is more than just her preference - if her and her friends / family all have certain prejudices, you will have to get over the fact that she will be concerned on how her friends and family will judge her.

However, it is possible to generate attraction where it doesn't exist. You just have to have your act together.

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[quote1210262666=Twitchy]However, it is possible to generate attraction where it doesn't exist. You just have to have your act together.[/quote1210262666]

Absolutely true! I'm not saying it's impossible, in our world nothing is impossible. But, you've got to have some tight game to pull it off.

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[quote1210256512=elitetran54]
And secondly i know that physical appearance doesn't really matter when i comes to picking up girls.[/quote1210256512]

I honestly hate this misnomer in the community. Frankly, it's bullshit. [/quote1210270367]
I thought the community was basically built on physical appearance doesn't matter. It the way you talk, and make her feel. I have had really good sets with other ethnicity before. But like i said it just takes longer. Starting off with no attraction is kinda difficult. I try to neg whenever i can, disqualify her, and a lot of comfort building with little games and stuff. Everything the community tough me to do. Maybe it should just be a sticking point for me. Maybe i should just game other ethnicity till i feel more comfortable and bring up my percentage. I kinda feel it might be my body language or maybe i show nervousness when i do the approaches.

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Looks aren't nearly as important for women as they are for men, but that doesn't mean that they don't matter.

I'm going to go off on a rant here but...

I get really tired of guys coming into the Community with this idea that they can sit on their ass all day, stuff their mouths with whatever they desire to eat, never work out, never worry about being stylish, never worry about hygiene, etc., etc., etc. and STILL be able to pull chicks. Think about it...does that make any sense to you? IT SHOULDN'T!!!

The premise of the Community is that even average guys can pick-up women, BUT only have they do a little bit of work to no longer be average. You can't simply read a couple of books, join a forum, go to a bootcamp, etc. and then walk up to women and have them creaming their panties for you. That's just not how this works. I think about how I used to be before the Community and how I am now and I realize that I've changed A LOT about myself. I'm more aware of how I look, how I walk, the words I use, the way I stand, the way I respond, facial expressions, etc., etc., etc., etc.

Sure, if you jump into this and never change anything about yourself besides what you say then I do believe you will be more successful than you used to be. If that's what you're shooting for, then by all means go that route. I, like most guys on here, want so much more than just better than what we used to be. We want to be the best we possibly can.

So, back to the issue at hand...physical appearance.

Looks do matter. Type matters even more. I've had this conversation with countless women:

Me: "So, what was it about me that attracted you?"

The answers vary, but there's always one thing in common and it's ALMOST ALWAYS mentioned last:

"I thought you were cute" OR "you were my type."

Girls are just as shallow as guys, in some ways even more so. A lot of girls won't even give a guy a shot if he doesn't fit her 'type' of guy. Men on the other hand, we have types but we'll also go out of our types for women that we find to be beautiful. Me, I love slender, brunettes or thick, blondes...I guess I'm into contrasts...but does that mean I've never closed a slender, blonde or a red head? Hell no, if she's hot she's at least got a chance. I don't think women have this same level of flexibility.