Pivots, pre-selection & taking the chance

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Last weekend, I went out both Friday night & Saturday night. Friday we started out at Duke's and then went to Black Finn's. As we were leaving Duke's, I opened a two set of women, talked for a few minutes and then just before we left, I invited them to catch up with us later at Black Finn's. As soon as we got to Black Finn's, I opened up another 2 set and seemed to be making good kino progress. About an hour into it, I saw the girl from Duke's that I had invited over. She made eye contact with me, saw that I had another woman leaning against me and disappeared into the crowd.

The IOI's from the girl I was with were good, but not outstanding. I should have re-opened the girl from Duke's after she saw me with the girl from Black Finn's. As it worked out, I got dead ended in phone game with the girl from Black Finn's.

For whatever reason, I keep thinking, I've got too much time invested with girl A to bother approaching girl B. It would be bad manners. It might hurt her feelings. Blah, blah, blah. These thoughts are all bull shit.

Saturday night, I had another chance to pivot with a girl who was giving me just enough IOI's to stick around. Again, same thoughts...it's bad manners, it might hurt her feelings, I've invested so much time, what if she get's mad and leaves...blah, blah, blah.

I read somewhere that all the 9's and 10's that Mystery ever bagged all involved one critical element: Pivots.

Don't be afraid to turn a target into a pivot if the chance presents itself. Odds are, she'll dead end you in phone game anyway. So even though you [i]think[/i] you've got something to risk or lose by attempting the pivot, you probably don't. In fact, it would probably work out the opposite way, the girl you think you're gonna lose by opening another set will probably become more attracted. And, odds are, after demonstrating pre-selection this way, you're probably more likely to get her on the phone too.

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which one is your pivot, or does it matter?

[Guest]

Pivot = demonstrating pre-selection. Doesn't matter which one you get with. I just usually go with the one giving me the strongest IOI's. Typically, the stronger the IOI's, the lower the chance of getting dead ended in phone game.

Basically, this is how things usually go: I meet a girl and start talking to her. Once I open her up and if she starts giving me any kind of PDA, like putting her arms around my neck, that sort of thing...once I get that kind of PDA, that's when I'll really notice the fuck-me eyes pouring in from other women around the club. If you get the proximity indicator from another woman when you go to the bar for a drink, that's an approach invitation. In the past, I've always decided not to "risk" losing my current target, but now that I've figured out what I've figured out, I'll probably start opening these potential targets, right in front of the girl who was giving me the IOI's & PDA.