We obviously are not going to see eye to eye. I can tell the shit you spit out is shit that you have read because it sounds like the same shit I have read. You have alot of knowledge trapped inside your head but you are very biased and closed minded. I would much rather discuss something like this in person rather than online because I cannot get past your one sided arguments. Plus I think you and grimm are taking the way I write differently from how I have intended. I am not condescending or disingenuous in person. I think my etiquette in my writing is far different than the guy I am in person. Ill work on it.
Reacting in a cutting way such as many of you do is not powerful. It is weak to allow another man to control your emotions.
Dallas PUA
The Pickup Artist Playground
Chasing
by Guest » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:38 pm
[QUOTE=Carnal;40443]I can tell the shit you spit out is shit that you have read because it sounds like the same shit I have read.[/QUOTE]
I see. So, it's impossible for multiple people to have the same thoughts at simultaneous moments in time. Brush up on your history, it happens all the time.
Is it possible that I have first hand experience and am an eloquent writer?
[QUOTE=Carnal;40443]You have alot of knowledge trapped inside your head but you are very biased and closed minded.[/QUOTE]
It's not trapped. I use it everyday very effectively.
[QUOTE=Carnal;40443]I would much rather discuss something like this in person rather than online because I cannot get past your one sided arguments.[/QUOTE]
It's hard to argue against reality and truths.
[QUOTE=Carnal;40443]Reacting in a cutting way such as many of you do is not powerful. It is weak to allow another man to control your emotions.[/QUOTE]
You have no control over my emotions. I'm glad you think so highly of yourself as to believe that you do. I'm simply bringing to surface a historical trend with all of your posts. It's a recurring theme that grows old and tired.
It's clear to me that you're a meglomaniac and enjoy talking down to others. You probably don't know you do so, which is fine, whatever. But, when you read posts like the one you made below it just makes those of us that know what's what roll their eyes.
[QUOTE=Carnal;40414]I workout and stay active, I am tall and attractive, I am an intellectual dreamer/thinker, I dont smoke or drink excessively, I have good taste in fashion and dress well, I eat out at nice restaurants often, I am also a good cook and prepare very formal dinners when I am chef, I purchase small inexpensive and thoughtful gifts all the time for myself and for my woman, I have alot of amazing sex, I make good money and have a recession proof career, I own a house, I come from a great family, I have alot of creative interests, I have great friends male and female, I have many short term goals and long term goals.[/QUOTE]
Seriously, who writes shit like that about themselves? True or not. It's in poor taste. Kind of reminds me of something Patrick Bateman would write about himself and we all know how well adjusted he was...
I see. So, it's impossible for multiple people to have the same thoughts at simultaneous moments in time. Brush up on your history, it happens all the time.
Is it possible that I have first hand experience and am an eloquent writer?
[QUOTE=Carnal;40443]You have alot of knowledge trapped inside your head but you are very biased and closed minded.[/QUOTE]
It's not trapped. I use it everyday very effectively.
[QUOTE=Carnal;40443]I would much rather discuss something like this in person rather than online because I cannot get past your one sided arguments.[/QUOTE]
It's hard to argue against reality and truths.
[QUOTE=Carnal;40443]Reacting in a cutting way such as many of you do is not powerful. It is weak to allow another man to control your emotions.[/QUOTE]
You have no control over my emotions. I'm glad you think so highly of yourself as to believe that you do. I'm simply bringing to surface a historical trend with all of your posts. It's a recurring theme that grows old and tired.
It's clear to me that you're a meglomaniac and enjoy talking down to others. You probably don't know you do so, which is fine, whatever. But, when you read posts like the one you made below it just makes those of us that know what's what roll their eyes.
[QUOTE=Carnal;40414]I workout and stay active, I am tall and attractive, I am an intellectual dreamer/thinker, I dont smoke or drink excessively, I have good taste in fashion and dress well, I eat out at nice restaurants often, I am also a good cook and prepare very formal dinners when I am chef, I purchase small inexpensive and thoughtful gifts all the time for myself and for my woman, I have alot of amazing sex, I make good money and have a recession proof career, I own a house, I come from a great family, I have alot of creative interests, I have great friends male and female, I have many short term goals and long term goals.[/QUOTE]
Seriously, who writes shit like that about themselves? True or not. It's in poor taste. Kind of reminds me of something Patrick Bateman would write about himself and we all know how well adjusted he was...
- Guest
by Guest » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:47 pm
[QUOTE=Bull Run;40444]I see. So, it's impossible for multiple people to have the same thoughts at simultaneous moments in time. Brush up on your history, it happens all the time. [/QUOTE]
Its impossible for you to have thoughts or ideas about things that you have not experienced or that occured in history prior to your birth unless you have read about it or became privy via some other channel. Unless you are psychic. Are you a palm reader?
[QUOTE=Bull Run;40444]Is it possible that I have first hand experience and am an eloquent writer?[/QUOTE]
Anything is possible.
[QUOTE=Bull Run;40444]It's clear to me that you're a meglomaniac and enjoy talking down to others. You probably don't know you do so, which is fine, whatever. But, when you read posts like the one you made below it just makes those of us that know what's what roll their eyes.[/QUOTE]
***This coming from the guy that snorts cocain and fucks trailer trash hookers and brags about it!!! What?! You are like the pot calling the kettle black fool. All you ever do is beef yourself up and talk down to others. You maybe whatever you think you are in your head but you need to learn some manners. Respect is not handed out it is earned. You would be a poor choice for a business partner.
meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a (mg-l-mn-, -mny)
n.
1. A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
om·nip·o·tent (m-np-tnt)
adj.
Having unlimited or universal power, authority, or force; all-powerful. See Usage Note at infinite.
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You may not have the wealth part but you deffinitely think you have the rest!
[QUOTE=Bull Run;40444]Seriously, who writes shit like that about themselves? True or not. It's in poor taste. Kind of reminds me of something Patrick Bateman would write about himself and we all know how well adjusted he was...[/QUOTE]
Here you go again poking cheap shot jabs again. You are always taking bits and pieces of my posts out of context and using it against me and others here.
You would not win like this as an attorney fighting a case in a courtroom. The Jury would loose trust in you.
Its impossible for you to have thoughts or ideas about things that you have not experienced or that occured in history prior to your birth unless you have read about it or became privy via some other channel. Unless you are psychic. Are you a palm reader?
[QUOTE=Bull Run;40444]Is it possible that I have first hand experience and am an eloquent writer?[/QUOTE]
Anything is possible.
[QUOTE=Bull Run;40444]It's clear to me that you're a meglomaniac and enjoy talking down to others. You probably don't know you do so, which is fine, whatever. But, when you read posts like the one you made below it just makes those of us that know what's what roll their eyes.[/QUOTE]
***This coming from the guy that snorts cocain and fucks trailer trash hookers and brags about it!!! What?! You are like the pot calling the kettle black fool. All you ever do is beef yourself up and talk down to others. You maybe whatever you think you are in your head but you need to learn some manners. Respect is not handed out it is earned. You would be a poor choice for a business partner.
meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a (mg-l-mn-, -mny)
n.
1. A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
om·nip·o·tent (m-np-tnt)
adj.
Having unlimited or universal power, authority, or force; all-powerful. See Usage Note at infinite.
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You may not have the wealth part but you deffinitely think you have the rest!
[QUOTE=Bull Run;40444]Seriously, who writes shit like that about themselves? True or not. It's in poor taste. Kind of reminds me of something Patrick Bateman would write about himself and we all know how well adjusted he was...[/QUOTE]
Here you go again poking cheap shot jabs again. You are always taking bits and pieces of my posts out of context and using it against me and others here.
You would not win like this as an attorney fighting a case in a courtroom. The Jury would loose trust in you.
- Guest
by Guest » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:30 pm
But seriously guys, this thread has been hijacked and gotten out of control. the last few posts have been nothing but personal attacks.
You all should know what is appropriate and what is not.
If you guys would like to continue taking shots at each other, please feel free to do it in Private messages, or, create an off topic thread or something.
You all should know what is appropriate and what is not.
If you guys would like to continue taking shots at each other, please feel free to do it in Private messages, or, create an off topic thread or something.
- Guest
by Guest » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:19 pm
You're only assuming I started this thread because I wanted advice. I never said that. Actually I just thought it would be an interesting topic for discussion. Good entertainment value. It's interesting for me to see how different people interpret game.
I'm sorry you saw my post as being critical. You asked for my opinion and I gave you what my opinion is. Maybe you've found a system that works for you... and that's great. That's what it's all about man.
[QUOTE=Carnal;40440]This is something that has been working for me very well for a long time. I believe it will kickstart the chasing you have soo eagerly requested information about.
It has been field tested by me. I am seasoned Grimm, I am not some kid who just started this stuff. If it was something that came off as forced or fake then it would not be affective and I obviously wouldnt post it. This is more of an observation from my experiences. I have a total of 11 years of relationship experience. I am currently in a relationship. You shouldn't judge the depths of my knowledge by the number of my posts on this forum. I rarely post anything. Im also not attempting to convince anyone to see my way. I am a flawed human and I cant possibly put together a complete system in a couple paragraphs.
This is much more than just an idea, it is reality. It is natural type of game. It is not difficult. It is NOT something that I'm like "oh shit I need to be this or I need to be that." It requires minimal effort to think in terms of opposite poles. This is also not a complete system of game. You have to already be a mature man in soo many ways before you can use this stuff.
You grossly contradict yourself in soo many ways. Dont be soo closed minded, you can learn something about yourself from ALL walks of life. For you to say you prefer to find the strengh to be true to your nature rather than look at the world through another lens, is in a way, saying that I am not being true to myself as I look at the world through my lens. If you were truly true to yourself then you would not be seeking advice from others on anything at all because (according to you) being true to yourself would yield all the results you need. You would not be seeking validation or approval of your methods here (as we all do) if you were truly and completely confident and true to yourself. You would not be attempting anyone elses methods if you were true to yourself and if following your gut was the way.
I will say however that much of what I do is completely from the gut as I have ingested and regurgitated soo much game. But I still question my inner inhibitions. If one does not question his inherant instincts it is quite possible to let your EGO (amongst other things) run away from you. If I always followed my gut instinctual drives, I would probably be in prison or dead.
I'm sure you have studied alot of shit and have socially conditioned yourself to be completely different from how you were prior to entering the community.
I want to thank you for your criticism. Criticism teaches us to look deeper into our own reality.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry you saw my post as being critical. You asked for my opinion and I gave you what my opinion is. Maybe you've found a system that works for you... and that's great. That's what it's all about man.
[QUOTE=Carnal;40440]This is something that has been working for me very well for a long time. I believe it will kickstart the chasing you have soo eagerly requested information about.
It has been field tested by me. I am seasoned Grimm, I am not some kid who just started this stuff. If it was something that came off as forced or fake then it would not be affective and I obviously wouldnt post it. This is more of an observation from my experiences. I have a total of 11 years of relationship experience. I am currently in a relationship. You shouldn't judge the depths of my knowledge by the number of my posts on this forum. I rarely post anything. Im also not attempting to convince anyone to see my way. I am a flawed human and I cant possibly put together a complete system in a couple paragraphs.
This is much more than just an idea, it is reality. It is natural type of game. It is not difficult. It is NOT something that I'm like "oh shit I need to be this or I need to be that." It requires minimal effort to think in terms of opposite poles. This is also not a complete system of game. You have to already be a mature man in soo many ways before you can use this stuff.
You grossly contradict yourself in soo many ways. Dont be soo closed minded, you can learn something about yourself from ALL walks of life. For you to say you prefer to find the strengh to be true to your nature rather than look at the world through another lens, is in a way, saying that I am not being true to myself as I look at the world through my lens. If you were truly true to yourself then you would not be seeking advice from others on anything at all because (according to you) being true to yourself would yield all the results you need. You would not be seeking validation or approval of your methods here (as we all do) if you were truly and completely confident and true to yourself. You would not be attempting anyone elses methods if you were true to yourself and if following your gut was the way.
I will say however that much of what I do is completely from the gut as I have ingested and regurgitated soo much game. But I still question my inner inhibitions. If one does not question his inherant instincts it is quite possible to let your EGO (amongst other things) run away from you. If I always followed my gut instinctual drives, I would probably be in prison or dead.
I'm sure you have studied alot of shit and have socially conditioned yourself to be completely different from how you were prior to entering the community.
I want to thank you for your criticism. Criticism teaches us to look deeper into our own reality.[/QUOTE]
- Guest
by Guest » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:07 pm
[QUOTE=grimm1111;40437]If I understood you right, your first point is that "chasing" is based on timing. In other words, if you show too much interest too early, that's chasing. I think that's a good point. Kind of like how if a girl doesn't like you, and you push too hard, you're "creepy," but if she does like you, the same actions can be taken, the same words can be said, and she'll love it.
But to say it's ALL timing is incorrect I think. We've all been in a situation where everything is going great, and you get a girl out on a day 2, you get the two of you back to her place, and she "changes her mind."
Or hell, maybe that shit just happens to me.
Anyways, so maybe it'd be better just to say - If interest is not reciprocated, and you are showing interest, it's "chasing." And leave it there[/QUOTE]
If you can read situations quickly and correctly then timing is irrevelant. If your presentation is genuine enough at all times. Then by definition you would never be seen to be 'chasing' in terms of female social rules. Like a wolf in sheep's clothing. You get a free pass to interact and elicit attraction. I am convinced this is how the likes of R. Brand get away with their schtick.
Example:
You see a group of 1 guy + 4 girls. Observe to gague who is with who, some basic detail, etc. Approach and strike up conversation with the guy and isolate your BL so it looks like you are all kinds of into the conversation about baseball, whatever. Speak with clarity and purpose, Cheers the guy, shake hands, make strong, confident gestures, etc.
Because women are so much more socially attuned they will notice and react to your invasion. Because you are playing the social dynamics against them they will have to take it at face value. You get a free pass to 'screen' and on to step B.
[QUOTE=grimm1111;40437]Your second point is to "pick girls who pick you," so to say. I think that's damn right, as long as you're not limiting who you're approaching based on it. Certainly you'll batting average will go up.[/QUOTE]
Step B is where you identify and work the girl/girls who likes you. She will often make it obvious - ask you a Q, touch your arm, etc. Not to say you have to go home with her BUT IMO the best single act you can make in a bar/club is get attraction. Other women see this like a bull sees a red flag.
Think about it. Even if you don't care for the hottie in the group this can parlay. How does anybody else know the context? Could be your buddies. Could be ANYTHING. Other girls will make covert approaches just based on what you did. They will try and get you to 'bounce into' their set. It's very interesting stuff and powerful IMO.
[QUOTE=grimm1111;40437]I think too many guys get in to "game" to avoid rejection. They want to get good so they don't get blown out. That's the worst motive in the world IMO.
Handling rejection is an essential part of the PUA's toolkit. But that said, certainly over time you develop an eye for the girls at the bar who will be open to doing something.
And hell, developing that skill can be a great circus trick. I was at the Loon one time with a few friends, and we had just come from seeing a movie. We were playing a game, where the other guys would write something on a napkin, and you had go open a girl by giving her the napkin with whatever dumb line written on it. A couple guys went, and they lasted a couple seconds, and came back. When it was my turn, since I'm a competitive bastard, I looked around and found the easiest girl in the bar... this older blond woman. You can just sense these things. Anyways, I ended up showboating, and I brought her back to meet everyone, etc.
Then bull run got competitive, and went up to her later and number closed her under my nose... the bastard. Ahh good times.[/QUOTE]
This last part I'm not sure I follow totally. Rejection is just part and parcel. That's a dead horse. Funny you mention it though as I have met those type of guys and it's not pretty at ALL. One I remember meeting in ATL off their board one night (did that a lot on the road - hit up the board and hit venues. Usually just ditching them along the way LOL). He claimed to be good etc. Was a total creepy loser (boy doesn't THAT sound familiar?!). He wanted to go 10/10 on approaches said was his goal. Needless to say we didn't see eye to eye on much. Fool.
I like BradP on this. 2/10 blow out - any less you are not pushing it enough. Feels good actually I like the blow out. Like a breath of fresh air!
I see the point on your Loon example. She was vibing you somehow and so that is why you picked that approach, which also proves my point. It's a great way to bounce around the venue and get good energy. Please tell me if/why you don't it as a general tactic? If you were out on your own this might have been money..
But to say it's ALL timing is incorrect I think. We've all been in a situation where everything is going great, and you get a girl out on a day 2, you get the two of you back to her place, and she "changes her mind."
Or hell, maybe that shit just happens to me.
Anyways, so maybe it'd be better just to say - If interest is not reciprocated, and you are showing interest, it's "chasing." And leave it there[/QUOTE]
If you can read situations quickly and correctly then timing is irrevelant. If your presentation is genuine enough at all times. Then by definition you would never be seen to be 'chasing' in terms of female social rules. Like a wolf in sheep's clothing. You get a free pass to interact and elicit attraction. I am convinced this is how the likes of R. Brand get away with their schtick.
Example:
You see a group of 1 guy + 4 girls. Observe to gague who is with who, some basic detail, etc. Approach and strike up conversation with the guy and isolate your BL so it looks like you are all kinds of into the conversation about baseball, whatever. Speak with clarity and purpose, Cheers the guy, shake hands, make strong, confident gestures, etc.
Because women are so much more socially attuned they will notice and react to your invasion. Because you are playing the social dynamics against them they will have to take it at face value. You get a free pass to 'screen' and on to step B.
[QUOTE=grimm1111;40437]Your second point is to "pick girls who pick you," so to say. I think that's damn right, as long as you're not limiting who you're approaching based on it. Certainly you'll batting average will go up.[/QUOTE]
Step B is where you identify and work the girl/girls who likes you. She will often make it obvious - ask you a Q, touch your arm, etc. Not to say you have to go home with her BUT IMO the best single act you can make in a bar/club is get attraction. Other women see this like a bull sees a red flag.
Think about it. Even if you don't care for the hottie in the group this can parlay. How does anybody else know the context? Could be your buddies. Could be ANYTHING. Other girls will make covert approaches just based on what you did. They will try and get you to 'bounce into' their set. It's very interesting stuff and powerful IMO.
[QUOTE=grimm1111;40437]I think too many guys get in to "game" to avoid rejection. They want to get good so they don't get blown out. That's the worst motive in the world IMO.
Handling rejection is an essential part of the PUA's toolkit. But that said, certainly over time you develop an eye for the girls at the bar who will be open to doing something.
And hell, developing that skill can be a great circus trick. I was at the Loon one time with a few friends, and we had just come from seeing a movie. We were playing a game, where the other guys would write something on a napkin, and you had go open a girl by giving her the napkin with whatever dumb line written on it. A couple guys went, and they lasted a couple seconds, and came back. When it was my turn, since I'm a competitive bastard, I looked around and found the easiest girl in the bar... this older blond woman. You can just sense these things. Anyways, I ended up showboating, and I brought her back to meet everyone, etc.
Then bull run got competitive, and went up to her later and number closed her under my nose... the bastard. Ahh good times.[/QUOTE]
This last part I'm not sure I follow totally. Rejection is just part and parcel. That's a dead horse. Funny you mention it though as I have met those type of guys and it's not pretty at ALL. One I remember meeting in ATL off their board one night (did that a lot on the road - hit up the board and hit venues. Usually just ditching them along the way LOL). He claimed to be good etc. Was a total creepy loser (boy doesn't THAT sound familiar?!). He wanted to go 10/10 on approaches said was his goal. Needless to say we didn't see eye to eye on much. Fool.
I like BradP on this. 2/10 blow out - any less you are not pushing it enough. Feels good actually I like the blow out. Like a breath of fresh air!
I see the point on your Loon example. She was vibing you somehow and so that is why you picked that approach, which also proves my point. It's a great way to bounce around the venue and get good energy. Please tell me if/why you don't it as a general tactic? If you were out on your own this might have been money..
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by Guest » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:48 pm
[QUOTE=Welsh_Dragon;40450]Please tell me if/why you don't it as a general tactic? If you were out on your own this might have been money..[/QUOTE]
I have a friend who has never read a lick about game, never heard of the community, but has fucked easily over 100 girls by going out to bars and picking them up. I remember rolling with him, and the thing that stuck out to me was his thought process as he went through the bar. He'd spot a girl and be like "Hey Grimm, you see that girl with the tight skirt and the red boots? She wants to get fucked tonight." And over and over.
Basically, the guy wasn't thinking about which girls he would like to open, he was thinking about which girls were looking to get fucked. Then he'd go open them with some cocky funny shit, and repeat that process and 9 times out of 10 the guy usually ended up taking somebody home.
I learned that scouting trick from my buddy, and it's in the back of my mind for whenever I want to pull it out.
The problem I have with it is frankly, I see it as a bit lazy. My buddy fucked a lot of girls, but they were usually 5's and 6's, never higher than an 8, and they were always at Sherlocks or Logans.
I guess I'm saying that me personally, I'm too picky to operate that way. I don't mind running lower percentage sets, because I feel that challenge and adversity pushes you as a person and makes you better/stronger.
A group of us went to Martini Park last weekend. I dressed down in a tshirt and jeans, but still literally had girls literally grabbing my ass, hugging up on me, opening me, all the night long.
Desperation is a HUGE turn-off for me. I need a girl who will challenge me a bit, or else I just get bored and the girl doesn't have much value to me. I'm not going to fuck just any girl, if I'm not totally smashed drunk. She has to have some appeal to me.
But that's a personal preference that I have. It's not to say that running that type of game is ineffective or inferior in any way.
I have a friend who has never read a lick about game, never heard of the community, but has fucked easily over 100 girls by going out to bars and picking them up. I remember rolling with him, and the thing that stuck out to me was his thought process as he went through the bar. He'd spot a girl and be like "Hey Grimm, you see that girl with the tight skirt and the red boots? She wants to get fucked tonight." And over and over.
Basically, the guy wasn't thinking about which girls he would like to open, he was thinking about which girls were looking to get fucked. Then he'd go open them with some cocky funny shit, and repeat that process and 9 times out of 10 the guy usually ended up taking somebody home.
I learned that scouting trick from my buddy, and it's in the back of my mind for whenever I want to pull it out.
The problem I have with it is frankly, I see it as a bit lazy. My buddy fucked a lot of girls, but they were usually 5's and 6's, never higher than an 8, and they were always at Sherlocks or Logans.
I guess I'm saying that me personally, I'm too picky to operate that way. I don't mind running lower percentage sets, because I feel that challenge and adversity pushes you as a person and makes you better/stronger.
A group of us went to Martini Park last weekend. I dressed down in a tshirt and jeans, but still literally had girls literally grabbing my ass, hugging up on me, opening me, all the night long.
Desperation is a HUGE turn-off for me. I need a girl who will challenge me a bit, or else I just get bored and the girl doesn't have much value to me. I'm not going to fuck just any girl, if I'm not totally smashed drunk. She has to have some appeal to me.
But that's a personal preference that I have. It's not to say that running that type of game is ineffective or inferior in any way.
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by Guest » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:13 pm
[QUOTE=grimm1111;40455]I have a friend who has never read a lick about game, never heard of the community, but has fucked easily over 100 girls by going out to bars and picking them up. I remember rolling with him, and the thing that stuck out to me was his thought process as he went through the bar. He'd spot a girl and be like "Hey Grimm, you see that girl with the tight skirt and the red boots? She wants to get fucked tonight." And over and over.
Basically, the guy wasn't thinking about which girls he would like to open, he was thinking about which girls were looking to get fucked. Then he'd go open them with some cocky funny shit, and repeat that process and 9 times out of 10 the guy usually ended up taking somebody home.
I learned that scouting trick from my buddy, and it's in the back of my mind for whenever I want to pull it out.
The problem I have with it is frankly, I see it as a bit lazy. My buddy fucked a lot of girls, but they were usually 5's and 6's, never higher than an 8, and they were always at Sherlocks or Logans.
I guess I'm saying that me personally, I'm too picky to operate that way. I don't mind running lower percentage sets, because I feel that challenge and adversity pushes you as a person and makes you better/stronger.
A group of us went to Martini Park last weekend. I dressed down in a tshirt and jeans, but still literally had girls literally grabbing my ass, hugging up on me, opening me, all the night long.
Desperation is a HUGE turn-off for me. I need a girl who will challenge me a bit, or else I just get bored and the girl doesn't have much value to me. I'm not going to fuck just any girl, if I'm not totally smashed drunk. She has to have some appeal to me.
But that's a personal preference that I have. It's not to say that running that type of game is ineffective or inferior in any way.[/QUOTE]
First comes to mind is venue. The hot clubs and hot cities have the hot girls. You get what you pay for, so to speak. But lists mean next to nothing in Dallas anyway so this is an easy barrier to entry place. Sherlocks or Logans is real easy meat. Great training grounds don't get me wrong but apparently not up to your snuff. I gues you would say that's lazy.
Your bud understands though. That is good thinking. I think like that a lot. I use that stuff a lot. Where we diverge is your assumption that means hitting girls of low quality. You don't have to do anything you don't want to :)
I fear a desire to find a girl who is a "challenge" may be akin to fighting nature (might be wrong here not sure what you mean by challenger). She might not be a challenge the week later when she ovulates. Does it make sense to nix her on that? Of course purely hypothetical.
Also I never have been to a bar in Dallas where smashed hot girls are litteraly throwing themselves at any decent guy. MP back in the day was legendary. Not so much these days (last I checked anyway). But I'm more like you Grimm I do like to seek out the quiet sweet type (albit usually via the loud Alpha girl). And you know they are always there. Just pure game that's all I advocate and seek knowledge on. Could move to anywhere in the world should work the same. The human experience.
Basically, the guy wasn't thinking about which girls he would like to open, he was thinking about which girls were looking to get fucked. Then he'd go open them with some cocky funny shit, and repeat that process and 9 times out of 10 the guy usually ended up taking somebody home.
I learned that scouting trick from my buddy, and it's in the back of my mind for whenever I want to pull it out.
The problem I have with it is frankly, I see it as a bit lazy. My buddy fucked a lot of girls, but they were usually 5's and 6's, never higher than an 8, and they were always at Sherlocks or Logans.
I guess I'm saying that me personally, I'm too picky to operate that way. I don't mind running lower percentage sets, because I feel that challenge and adversity pushes you as a person and makes you better/stronger.
A group of us went to Martini Park last weekend. I dressed down in a tshirt and jeans, but still literally had girls literally grabbing my ass, hugging up on me, opening me, all the night long.
Desperation is a HUGE turn-off for me. I need a girl who will challenge me a bit, or else I just get bored and the girl doesn't have much value to me. I'm not going to fuck just any girl, if I'm not totally smashed drunk. She has to have some appeal to me.
But that's a personal preference that I have. It's not to say that running that type of game is ineffective or inferior in any way.[/QUOTE]
First comes to mind is venue. The hot clubs and hot cities have the hot girls. You get what you pay for, so to speak. But lists mean next to nothing in Dallas anyway so this is an easy barrier to entry place. Sherlocks or Logans is real easy meat. Great training grounds don't get me wrong but apparently not up to your snuff. I gues you would say that's lazy.
Your bud understands though. That is good thinking. I think like that a lot. I use that stuff a lot. Where we diverge is your assumption that means hitting girls of low quality. You don't have to do anything you don't want to :)
I fear a desire to find a girl who is a "challenge" may be akin to fighting nature (might be wrong here not sure what you mean by challenger). She might not be a challenge the week later when she ovulates. Does it make sense to nix her on that? Of course purely hypothetical.
Also I never have been to a bar in Dallas where smashed hot girls are litteraly throwing themselves at any decent guy. MP back in the day was legendary. Not so much these days (last I checked anyway). But I'm more like you Grimm I do like to seek out the quiet sweet type (albit usually via the loud Alpha girl). And you know they are always there. Just pure game that's all I advocate and seek knowledge on. Could move to anywhere in the world should work the same. The human experience.
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