Bad Advice

[Tribulus1000]

I've signed up for a few email/sales pitch newsletter deals from some of the gurus and marketing guys.
Some of it is ok. But most of it is aweful advice. I sometimes ask myself "Do they really think acting like that is going to get you what you want?"

Alot of it is sensationalism Julian Foxx has one that says "How to Date Megan Fox, Eva Mendez and more."
Julian ought to wake the fuck up because nobody is going to be dating celebrities. Unless you move to Los Angeles, become a movie producer or even a guy who interacts with them on a regular basis, nobody in Dallas Fort Worth has a chance in hell of even meeting these girls.

Back to bad advice...

I got one from Swinggcat on Qualifying. Ok qualifying isn't bad the problem is how guys do it that messes things up.
For example "Name three things about you that would make me want to get to know you better." is horrible when its out of the blue with no context.

What I do is just let it happen naturally or start with a quick story about my life and just ask them if anything funny or weird happened in their lives. If it hooks, they will qualify.

Its probably more important that you know WHEN she is qualifying naturally. At that point, you know that she is actually interested in you. If you get that with a few obvious body language IOI's, get the number or move her to an isolated spot.

Back to Bad Advice....

Here's a blog example....
http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/ ... mans-mind/

Vin Di Carlo.
Obviously this guy is out to sell something. I agree with the article at the first part where he talks about women as being different.
But then he goes off course...He talks about women as if they were a casino roulette wheel. They're not. He then says you can make alot of profit from doing a certain move. You won't.

Here's another snippet....
Until now, you couldn’t get this information about her unless you stole her diary and read it. But recent insights into Female Psychology have cracked her mind right open, and you can peek into her secret thoughts and read the contents.

Until now? NLP. You can't peer into anyone's mind. You can't crack open someone's mind. This is weird mind control shit.

You're trying to get laid, not start a mind control cult!!!!

The article continues.....

Did you know that there are two ways women like to be approached?

Holy Shit!!! Do tell.....

50% of women respond well to a compliment while the other 50% of women wouldn’t DREAM of “falling for a line like that.” If the beautiful woman you just met likes the compliment you gave her, she’ll start to connect with you and find her attractive.
Ok I'm gonna burst Vin Di Carlo's bubble here....Women like to be approached if its their idea.
In fact women like ANYTHING if its their idea.

Sure they like a compliment. Everyone likes a compliment. But it will work better if its her idea. You're just there to reinforce her thoughts.

Vin Di Carlo continues....

If she doesn’t vibe with your line – You’re dead where you stand. You won’t get another chance to win her heart, and she’ll go back to whatever she was doing.

This is reallly bad advice. Why? Because it paints a picture of a girl like she's some kind of fortress that only alllows people in who know the secret password.
This kind of all or none type thinking is ridiculous.

If she likes me, she will show me with her actions, words and subtle body language. Some girls will like you but can't act on it because they have insecurities or hangups about men.

Vin Di Carlo continues....

You can have THAT GIRL! You can save that conversation! With the new techniques I’ve discovered, you’ll know whether she’s a compliment girl – or not – before you ever approach her. (They’re called Testers and Investors… And the strategies to meet each type are potent and powerful)

I’m giving away a whole chunk of this system for free, and you can check it out at this link:

Oh yeah. I have the secret password to the vagina fortress. Sure. Its just $495.00 plus shipping and handling.

Oh and don't miss out. There are only 2 slots left!!! Yeah right.

Just a word on systems....Systems are good. They have rules and if you follow them, you will get consistent. They can train someone to act a certain way or say certain lines.
The problem with some of these systems is that they are inflexible and transparent.

Inflexible meaning you don't deviate much from set to set. If you do, then you stop and restart. Transparent meaning its obvious to her that you're using lines. And that's ok because girls need to know you actually like 'em.

Sticking point analysis and good conversation skills will get you further than any cookie cutter system.
You need to know what your weak and strong points are so you can work on the weak stuff but keep the strong things going.

If a guru told a guy "Don't lean in. Leaning in means you're needy." Then when it comes time for a kiss, the guy acts weird because he doesn't want to lean in for a kiss.
How stupid is that? So systems should not be followed like that.

Tribulus

p.s. I have no problem with Swinggcat, Julian Foxx or Vin Di Carlo. I'm just against bad advice.

[Gamble]

Very nice. I haven't read the next two sets of bad advice yet, but I did get an email from Love Systems for their new text book. It said something like:

IMPROVE YOUR TEXT GAME:
We'll teach you how to start talking to that girl who went cold... ect. ect.

The best advice I have ever taken to heart with girls that go cold is just start talking to them. If they were interested in the first place, it won't be very hard to do it again.

Granted, this ebook probably has a lot of good advice in it, but I can't see making someone rich off something you can learn yourself or through friends...

[Tribulus1000]

I can't make this shit up. If this is the best that they have to offer, then I will comment on all their stuff because its crap.

And yes I agree with you Gamble, we can learn things from our friends and people we know. I have recently been learning quite a bit from a friend of mine who is brilliant with text and phone game.

The Bad Advice posts are not meant to be negative in nature but rather to point out the shoddy quality of products and to help everyone see that the stuff that they lead guys to believe is not necessarily correct.

Carry on my friend,
Tribulus