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[Honesty]

I was watching a david deangelo clip and there was this speaker who said when he sees a woman reject a man he will go up to her and ask what that man did wrong. This seems like it could be an opener and a possible way to gain more constructive information.

I think I might start doing that and maybe after I get rejected, ask the person who rejected me what i did wrong.

They might not tell you what to do to get the girl, but they might tell you what not to do.

What are some potential pros and cons?

~Honesty~

[dubya]

It would be better to have a friend sitting off to the side reopen the group after you leave. The criticism you will get will be more honest. They are more likely to tell a third party what you did wrong then to tell you.

[Tribulus1000]

I was watching a david deangelo clip and there was this speaker who said when he sees a woman reject a man he will go up to her and ask what that man did wrong. This seems like it could be an opener and a possible way to gain more constructive information.

I think I might start doing that and maybe after I get rejected, ask the person who rejected me what i did wrong.

They might not tell you what to do to get the girl, but they might tell you what not to do.

What are some potential pros and cons?

~Honesty~

Yeah. Anything you can do to take action is good. However, don't think of it as rejection. They're just reacting to your behaviors.

If its a rejection, its only a rejection of the communication. Not the person.

I might say something like "Let me ask you something....seriously....what would it take for a man to impress you enough for you to want to spend time with him?"

Or more sexual..."what kind of man do you go for? What kind of guy turns you on and makes you FEEL SEXY?"

That's almost NLP patterning because you elicit a process. She might begin to feel those feelings with you. Perhaps. But you would find out what she wants rather than what guys do wrong.

Maybe throw some role playing in it??
"If I were Brad Pitt and I walked in here, how would you let me know that you wanted to talk to me?"

Misinterpretation...
"Oh my god....you're doing it NOW....Look at the way you're looking at me....the way your knees are pointed...I gotta go now"

Gender reversal
"Wow you girls are so hard. If you were a man, how would you pick up chicks?"

I told a friend today that I think being a man is talking shit which I've done enough here in this post. So I'll stop.
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[Dax]

I was watching a david deangelo clip and there was this speaker who said when he sees a woman reject a man he will go up to her and ask what that man did wrong. This seems like it could be an opener and a possible way to gain more constructive information.

I think I might start doing that and maybe after I get rejected, ask the person who rejected me what i did wrong.

They might not tell you what to do to get the girl, but they might tell you what not to do.

What are some potential pros and cons?

~Honesty~

Some great advice above BTW. I believe I saw the same David D clip, but I interpreted it as a good opener w/ a possibility of learning something. Meaning more of a solid opener, due to the ideal opportunistic situation (i.e. you could go at this so many diff ways: you could be the just curious guy, you could be the CF guy and tool the previous reject...etc). I mean...are the girls really going to know why? As we all know, it was probably due to some subconscious deficit that she couldn't even recognize (mocking her: "he didn't have enough energy, he didn't have good body language, he wasn't alpha enough"...lol). Self or peer reflection is the best way to analyze your game...in my own opinion of course.

I don't know how effective it would be to reopen a blown set to ask why they blew you out...now you are admitting to her, or her set, that you are in fact a needy individual. Maybe the 3rd party to reopen and ask isn't THAT bad of an idea... I haven't thought about the contingencies though. Any1 else?