Direct Game

[Westfall]

Qualification is extremely important...

WF

[Bull Run]

My good friend has absolutely no clue about the community. I know for a fact he has nailed 7 girls this year. He got every single one of these girls with direct game. I have seen him walk up to a girl and compliment her looks and nail her within 24 hours. I will say however that he is a tall, big, good looking guy by most girls account. Does this play a part in direct? You bet your ass.

No one ever talks about looks in the Community. Do looks matter even as a PUA? YES they do. Just because you know how this stuff works doesn't make you immune from being judged on your looks.

Are there really successful guys in the Community that aren't good-looking? No doubt. Do they pull hot chicks? Yep. Style is a great example right? He's admitted that he's not the best looking guy. But he's confident and he's figured out a way to build attraction with women without the woman really being that aware of it, which by the way is the purest definition of indirect game.

If he were to simply walk up to women being direct I'm pretty sure the guy would get blown out regularly, unless he had some other form of DHV visibily present. I think this goes the same for any other 'average looking' PUA.

Looks in direct game factor into the equation so much more than indirect game. The best at direct game that I've ever seen were considered to be very physically attractive by female standards. Intuitively this makes sense. I mean if a hot chick approaches us directly we'd be much more likely to talk with them than if an average chick approached us. People have a preference for attractive people, regardless of whether you're a man or a woman.

Also, I think direct game lacks any level of creativity and is simply lazy. Think of what you're subcommunicating:

Pros

-I'm confident enough to simply approach and tell you like it is
-I'm not going to fuck around, I know what I want and I'm going after it
-I've got so much to offer you that I don't need to tell you about them, you will simply like me...period

Cons

-I'm so devoid of standards that I will simply approach you and within a few short seconds unveil my interest in you because all it takes for me to like you is for you to be attractive
-I lack any level of creativity, I'm short on charm or wit and will simply approach without going through the courtship dance on some level
-I'm lazy, I want you without really being forced to 'work for you'
-I don't really value you as a person, I simply view you as an extension of me and therefore I'm better than you and will always remain this way
-You aren't high enough value for me to put forth any true effort, you're just the next in the line of approaches

I think the cons outweight the pros. Having said that, I've run direct game before and it can work but I've found that it really works BEST with girls that are attracted to you before you ever even approach. It's more of a numbers game than indirect. When it works, it works well. When it doesn't you're just plain creepy.

[Lion]

Sure, direct game works. But where's the fun in that? There's no chase or anything. I don't know about you guys, but my number one goal when I go out is to HAVE SOME FUNNNN!!! I never go direct in my words but Ido go direct in my actions (kissing, biting, hair pulling, etc.).

yea to me this is direct...what is the community definition of 'direct game'?

to me 'direct' is.... it's clear what the interaction is all about...none of this opinion, games, fluff, etc.

His definition was cutting out all the bs and saying "I like you, I want to get to know you".

[Westfall]

-I'm so devoid of standards that I will simply approach you and within a few short seconds unveil my interest in you because all it takes for me to like you is for you to be attractive
-I lack any level of creativity, I'm short on charm or wit and will simply approach without going through the courtship dance on some level.

You can put some qualification in to help reduce these two.... Qualification is great as it makes the girl have to work to get you, even though she already has your initial interset...

Look, I think you are really hot and would love to have wild mind-blowing sex with you tonight.....but, I don't know if that is possible, because...well, I have a rainbow brite fetish and it's only going to work if you have one of those cute little RB costumes....if you don't you're just going to be lying there experincing orgasm after orgasm, and Im not going to get ANYTHING out of it.....

...and Im too selfish for that.

That's creative and makes her qualify to get you.

WF

[Bull Run]

-I'm so devoid of standards that I will simply approach you and within a few short seconds unveil my interest in you because all it takes for me to like you is for you to be attractive
-I lack any level of creativity, I'm short on charm or wit and will simply approach without going through the courtship dance on some level.

You can put some qualification in to help reduce these two.... Qualification is great as it makes the girl have to work to get you, even though she already has your initial interset...

Look, I think you are really hot and would love to have wild mind-blowing sex with you tonight.....but, I don't know if that is possible, because...well, I have a rainbow brite fetish and it's only going to work if you have one of those cute little RB costumes....if you don't you're just going to be lying there experincing orgasm after orgasm, and Im not going to get ANYTHING out of it.....

...and Im too selfish for that.

That's creative and makes her qualify to get you.

WF

But on some level isn't qualifying indirect? It's masking your true intentions right?

[quipster]

But on some level isn't qualifying indirect? It's masking your true intentions right?

You went direct because of her looks. You still need to show that you are selective, not 100% invested in her and willing to walk away since you are a man that has options. You still need to flirt and push/pull

[Bull Run]

But on some level isn't qualifying indirect? It's masking your true intentions right?

You went direct because of her looks. You still need to show that you are selective, not 100% invested in her and willing to walk away since you are a man that has options. You still need to flirt and push/pull

Makes sense, I was really just playing Devil's Advocate with my last comment.

Direct is just the initial approach, not necessarily the entire interaction.

[grimm1111]

If I wanted to be 100% congruent with my true personality and what is actually going on in my head when I see a beautiful girl, here's what I would say. I reckon it's direct.



"You look hot, so I'll talk to you. I want to get to know you in case you have more going on."

she answers, whatever, then i'd want to get in...

"Looks will get you to the door but it takes a lot more than that to win me over."

And then I would want to screen her.

Realistically I'd probably have to throw some humor or teases in there to get some attraction from her first or she'll likely just tell me to "fuck off" AKA "I don't have to prove myself to you"

Didn't have a chance to field test any of it last night, I was pleasantly occupied with some normal game. It's on the to-do list for sure tho.

[Westfall]

But on some level isn't qualifying indirect? It's masking your true intentions right?

Not at all, well not the way I see it. I am getting her to qualify because I like girls that qualify to me, they are more likely do other stuff for me, so by making them qualify with some dumb hoop, I am legiitimately making them qualify to me by ...qualifying to me I know that makes no damn sense, but them qualifying to me is what increases my interest in them...

I'm not all that interested in a girl who is hot, but not qualifying, but tell a girl I have a rainbow brite fetish and she cleverly says something like I have a bag of skittiles back at my place....Im proabably going to go back got her place and "taste the rainbow".

I really dont think Id be too interested in a girl--or at least not enough to give her a ZIO, based on looks alone...but I can directly state that I am a little interested...

bah, Im just ramblin'.....

Westfall

[Guest]

Direct is my least favorite....
because it rarely Attracts 9s-10s
But There's aalways exception
If You Add a Direct line with A HIGH DHV, Strong Confidence and Social Proof you can hook any chick
Like a Celebrity can walk up to most girls directly and will hook them at some point. those of us who arent famous (yet) will just need to make "them" think we're "celebrity"

the benefit of direct is less time consuming and if she's hooked, you go to comfort faster she will be attracted to you more and see that youre very ballsy and confident....very ideal attributes of a man she wanna fuck

but neway,
my 2 favorite direct gambits: Both have 80% success when i go straight up to a random girl directly, no "hey guys quick opinions" or etc, the Key Is Confidence n providing i already show social proof before!

1.Silent*: Omg, Stacy!!!! (make up a random name =P)!! Congrats!!!!!!! You got married and all! How've you been kiddo.... how's the wedding??

HB will make a random face... (who is this guy type of face) and say: I'm not Stacy....blah blah

Silent*: Oh you're just like my good friend stacy from high school. I had a big crush on her before she moved....i heard she got married etc
i dunno stack it from there (puas are creative creatures, direct serves to open but you already telling her she's cute and you want her)

Gambit 2:
Silent*: Hey you!! OMG you remind me of a Good person that i Know.....

HB: what? who? huh? etc blah blah or what do you mean?

Silent*: You Remind me of my Grandmother....not phsycially tho...She has a good heart and energy =) (credit to Victor M)
then stack away...

hope this helps bros,
~Sient*