Women and my views

[ultimatewingman]

It is my understanding (forgive me if i am wrong) that this group is all about picking up chicks and... doing stuff with them and then never seeing them again, that this is a group for men who do not want a long term relationship. While I was thinking about all of this, I thought... don't you guys want to see these girls more then once and if so... what if something clicks and you want to start a relationship with this woman.. what then? You have portrayed this person/player type guy who is sooo slick and adored but now you have to keep it up in order to keep seeing this girl.

I learned about this group through some guy who showed me all of his notes and kind of walked me through all of this and it amazes me how you think the woman doesn't know she is being played. Yes, you have game and you have your little wingman... but women do as well. Women have their freggin games (which we all know, as men). A lot of the time, like this guy i was "observing" (who told me about PUA) is totally oblivious when HE is getting played or when HE is getting knocked down and looking stupid. This group taught him what to say.. and how to say it.. but it didn't teach him how to PLAY the game and be observant.

Did you know that a woman who is in a croud of friends would be in awe if you walked up to her and "demanded" to talk to her. I am not talking about "hey talk to me"... I am talking about getting in the middle of the group (which would show you have nuts) and saying... "now that I am in the middle of your protection shield of friends... can we talk?"... do you have any idea how much p***y that would get you!!!!!!????

What I am saying is that there are techniques outside of wingmans... and such that can make you win womens hearts without "learning" to have balls. Anyway... if anyone wants a wingman... i'm game.

Jake

[Neuromancer]

the goal of most of the guys I know on this board and in the overall community is to take control of their love life. This is about learning an interpersonal skill set not how it is used. Think of it as a scalpel. You can prepare a freshly killed animal with it, kill and animal with it, kill a person with it, heal a person with it through surgery, carve your initials into your arm, a tree or do anything else you want to do with it. If you want to use this skill set to become a one night stand king, we won't judge. We may question if that is what you truly want but that is different and supportive. We would do the same if you got into a serious relationship.

I feel the chain of one night stands thing is more of an inner game block to real relationships. I also think the desire to find "The One" to be equally harmful. All of this is what we joined the community to figure out. Love, live life and explore yourself and others. If that exploration lasts a day or a lifetime is up to you and yours.

[JohnnyBravo]

Ok. I said it. I just want to get laid. Multiple times, by multiple women, if possible. I'd be happy with multiple times by one woman too. I'm 37. I was with the last girlfriend for 4 years. That was nice, but it got old. (the girl got fat, and...she had a daughter who entered teenager years who became a total bitch!). I just couldn't hang due to her daughter. It was really bad (if ya wanna more just PM me). Now, I just want to get laid by a multitude of women. As long as they're legal age, I don't care. 17 to 42 will do! Eventually, I do want a LTR. I'd like to have kids and a family eventually. I'm currently in the middle of changing of careers which will require travel to a college a long ways away from the DFW area. I understand the difficulties with a long distance relationship. Until I get accepted to that college, I'm happy to fuck whatever comes my way as long as it looks good and possibily has LTR possibilities and the girl understands that I'll be gone awhile. If no LTR possibilities, then that's fine too. I'm happy with a FB. I know a long distance relationship is not likely to surrive the long haul. Right now, that's ok with me. After I get accepted to the college of my choice and when I'm making > 100k/year, the selection of women for a LTR will be increased and very much available. Then, and only then will I consider a girl as a serious LTR.

BTW, I'm trying to get into Pharmacy School, if ya wanna know. After that, then yeah....I'll want a LTR with marriage possibilites...maybe But until then....Gimme all the pussy that is available and all the pussy I can get!!!!!!!!

Now, if you don't like that, then you can just fuck off!


JB

PS: Sorry if I offended anyone. I'm really drunk right now.

Later,
JB

[Rhody]

I agree and disagree with the original poster. On some community sites, the people really seem like their sole purpose is to get laid without having any relationships. For example, the fastseduction web site is really bad about that.

However, I think this community in particular is more about obtaining and improving the interpersonal communication skill set, and helping each other become better social participants. I'm very new to this community, but in my observation of this community it's not about just getting laid.

Now, on some level, all PUA communities are guilty. Terms like "target" or "HB8.5" or "obstacle" seem to objectify people. For some, that's just a way to get that "I don't give a fuck" attitude that allows them to appear confident and to focus on the skills. But once you get into that comfort phase, it is really useful to become human again. Girls can really tell when you're not being human.

Also, some girls just want to get laid. It's ok to have sex with them if you're willing to accept the risks (you might fall for HER, STDs, etc.).

[Ca$h]

I disagree with the original post. I have met a lot of people in this community (Dallas PUA) and its not all about one night stands. The ultimate goal is to get it together in dealling with women and all. You choose what you define as success.

About your friend it sounds more like he is still getting his inner game together and thats why he is not noticing the shit test and hoops he's been made to jump thru (check out the shit test thread running on the board).

Personally I was out to get plugged into society (being an immigrant) but along the way i got to expereince other social success. I am able to pickup all types of women with all types of closes. The skills learnt on the community in general have also helped me improve on myself. This helped me in landing a to die for job and having it right within me am headed for a promotion ($$$$$$$$$$$$$)

Yeah I know.....life sucks

About you looing for a wing, show up for one of the friday night sarge events. Alternatively pm any of the members who announces that they are going to some venue.

[BrotherBeau]

ultimate... I'm glad you that you observe some of the sticking points of your friend's game. And it is true that some guys that join into the community are looking for ONS, racking up notches on their bedpost. Kudos to them if that is success.

But the beauty of the game is not canned routines or openings. It's being the best man you can be in order to attract the best women you can find.

Real PUAs do not Con, trick, manipulate..... if I did, I'd get too bored and frustrated too fast. It's too much work with no gratification.

Girls are attracted to unique, interesting men. But quality girls also thin-slice when approached, because they've dealt with AFCs approaching them the bulk of the time. Call it Resistance, Survival Instinct, Player Radar, Shit Tests, etc. They just want to know if the guy who has the confidence to approach possesses a mind and life to back it up.

We, the community, provide the first step. It is really up to you where you go with it.

I could go around and fuck 7s my entire life. Would I be satisfied? Hell no.

Why did I join the community? Because the Inner Nice Guy/Hopeless Romantic has a lot to offer and for some strange reason, girls weren't understanding that.

Now I'm on my own terms. Now I enjoy satisfying relationships. Now instead of dreaming I'm doing.

Any others out there with me? I'm sure half have somewhat similar stories.

[Neuromancer]

Now, on some level, all PUA communities are guilty. Terms like "target" or "HB8.5" or "obstacle" seem to objectify people. For some, that's just a way to get that "I don't give a fuck" attitude that allows them to appear confident and to focus on the skills. But once you get into that comfort phase, it is really useful to become human again. Girls can really tell when you're not being human.

At it's core the PU community is a secret society. We are drawn because it promises secrets to social interaction. We don't want people around us to know what we are up to as we are trading info. It would limit us. The code we use is to keep our exchange of information veiled from the people around us. It allows us to trade information in front of the women are interested in. My wing can give me advice on what he sees about the set without the set figuring it out. Isolate, move, bounce, DHV, neg, kino, escalate, K close, etc. can all be said in front of the target without cluing them in that we are trading social advice about them. It also makes writing posts easier.

[eagleman90]

Well, I found this community by luck or destiny. My overall goal is to improve my social life and make friends, if by chance I get to meet attractive woman, then that would be cool.

[V]

Different people have different goals. Some on here just want to get laid. Others want a LTR. Others just want to get their shit together and meet as many cool people as possible.

Does it ultimately matter what goal someone has? No.

It's a personal choice in life.